2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Darth-Piekus]

Well where to start and where to end.

1)Fantastic work from Oscar Piastri driving like a champion, never letting anyone challenge him for the win.
2)Lando has to do something about his starts and giving in to Max. Still good recovery and a worthy 2nd place.
3)Leclerc did well. Hamilton I have no idea what's going on with his car. Good job from Russell. Antonelli was unlucky.
4)Alonso got his first points on a day Stroll was missing. How far he has fallen.
5)It is a disgrace of F1 racing when we have a team like Red Bull driving with 4 cars trying to fix races. Today Hadjar didn't have to deliberately let Max pass on the small straight as Max wasn't lapping him. Then Slowson almost caused a 4 car collision. Blue Flag rules are clear and you need to stand aside like he did with Max immediately later. Norris could have had a DNF there. Combine it with the fact that last year that team used to steal Fastest Laps from Mclaren and changing drivers with the mother team even though they should have been separate teams.
6)It is a disgrace for F1 when someone is using a car as a weapon to do damage on purpose. Some years before we had an actual death on an F2 race on a car collision. Mad Max should have been disqualified from the drivers championship. The safety of drivers is not a laughing matter and it will help him sit down and focus on becoming a better person.
7)With all due respect. A message to the moderators and the Max fans who seem to have a beef with my messages. They know who they are. Do you agree of what you saw from Max today? Does that driver represent the kind of driving you want for F1? Do you think it is wrong to criticize such a disgusting attitude?

That is all from me and I was very lenient.

[FittingMechanics]

Another PU failure for Mercedes (or at least it looked like one). What is happening?

[Watto]

Another PU failure for Mercedes (or at least it looked like one). What is happening?

Toto confirmed it was an engine failure I believe. But a 49 point lead in the WDC is a very good buffer. I think if Max finished 3rd it would be a concern. But not really now.

[the EDGE]

Another PU failure for Mercedes (or at least it looked like one). What is happening?

Probably got too hot

[FittingMechanics]

I'm just surprised it is affecting other Mercedes engined teams but McLaren seems rock solid. Maybe others are seeing how little cooling McLaren needs so they run to little?

Strange in any case.

[Seerix]

Interesting point from radio during the safety car.
Will: I think we should box.
Lando: Yeah confirm. What's Oscar doing?
Will: Both of us (I think, kinda hard to hear). It's an instruction to box.

They seem to be pretty firmly trying to enforce both cars having the same strategy, so neither driver feels disadvantaged. ie Lando couldn't try staying out for track position if he wanted to.

[FittingMechanics]

Yes, I think that is very obvious. Team thinks they are clearly ahead of the competition and from the start of the season, this is full no preferential treatment.

Great result by the team. I am also very impressed with Norris, who did not overdrive into a mistake. Some days it just doesn't fall your way, it's important to stay focused and just clean up these P2s when needed.

[Tvetovnato]

Any news on when McLaren will bring upgrades?

[Watto]

I'm just surprised it is affecting other Mercedes engined teams but McLaren seems rock solid. Maybe others are seeing how little cooling McLaren needs so they run to little?

Strange in any case.

Maybe a combination of things?


I thought I recall earlier in the year the speculation that the Mercedes again had a slight power advantage over their rivals including Honda. Not anything proven but we've seen reliability upgrades gain power in the past I wonder if this bought an unknown issue?

Stella has said about the McLaren has car wide cooling solution so that probably helps.

But they've also been largely leading all season if they were running mid pack I wonder if it would cause an issue?


Either way I think they are pretty safe now the gap is large enough they can almost afford one. Red Bull were iirc highish on their engine allocation too iirc. Maybe not always a sign that there is excess wear. But it was a concern

[FittingMechanics]

Any news on when McLaren will bring upgrades?

No idea, but we have to take into account that they can't bring updates for one car. They need to have enough for both, and with the performance they have it's likely they won't rush them.

[_cerber1]

Any news on when McLaren will bring upgrades?

I heard it will be Red Bull Ring.

[SilviuAgo]

Another PU failure for Mercedes (or at least it looked like one). What is happening?

Toto confirmed it was an engine failure I believe. But a 49 point lead in the WDC is a very good buffer. I think if Max finished 3rd it would be a concern. But not really now.

Toto said on F1tv interview that was an oil problem and they need to investigate. So was not heat related.

And I keep my opinion that RB strategy was today the best, at least for them to put a constant and sensitive pressure on the two McLarens. Without the SC we might have a different outcome, Maybe for Oscar no problems but for Lando for sure a big headache.

[mwillems]

Yes, I think that is very obvious. Team thinks they are clearly ahead of the competition and from the start of the season, this is full no preferential treatment.

Great result by the team. I am also very impressed with Norris, who did not overdrive into a mistake. Some days it just doesn't fall your way, it's important to stay focused and just clean up these P2s when needed.

Has Lando been overdriving on a Sunday, though? Typically he's had strong Sundays I think. He's overdriven on a Saturday as well as being genuinely outqualified.

It's only ten points, he could get a couple more P2s and still be one incident away from taking the championship lead.
If any driver gets a 30 point gap then I guess you can start to look at that as a gap with a small comfort buffer.

[CjC]

Nah, Lando had Max covered on what was going to be the last stint before the safety car came out, only fighting back makers were making it look close.

Absolutely solid display from McLaren today, Oscar was lapping significantly quicker than Verstappen who was lapping on significantly younger tyres during the medium tyres stint.

[Magistos]

I will say after Monaco being so predictable, this was a fun race to watch.

Oscar exhibited wonderful control and race craft, doing what he does, quietly. He's, cold, calculating, and a bit aggressive.

Lando did great as well, aside from his typical race start issues. He also consistently applied pressure to Max, and showed his speed when he got past him. He drives on his emotions and it has weaknesses and strengths.

The strategy from McLaren was great today, and I hope to see more of this type of steady awareness.

Max is such a great talent, honestly, and for me, I am a McLaren fan but recognize his greatness and so I criticize him when he goes "Mad Max" because he doesn't have to. He's good enough not to need to resort to those tactics. It's unnecessary and will be a "but he..." in his story in the record books.

The ending was madness and very entertaining from a viewer's perspective.

I love that McLaren showed -again- that the car is a full package, not a one trick flexi wing, and that having two great drivers you can just let race is a good vision.