that was not about an incident, but on him not knowing how hard would behave on the restart or not doing enough for warming them up ("But he should have known that right away").Hoffman900 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:52There isn’t a single racing series on the planet where that doesn’t result in a pretty harsh penalty. That said, other series know how to run races and aren’t afraid of their drivers.avantman wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 20:17If only Max knew what every armchair experts knows... he might actually be a decent driver.Quantum wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 19:06
Noticed that too.
And he understeered into the marbles on the final corner during the restart which set off the ensuing oversteer and chain of events. One could argue Max didn't get the Hard tyres warm enough when the others on softs did.
But he should have known that right away
We certaintly know the FIA can’t run a race fairly to save their life though (making up rules, secret TD’s, etc).
Agreed. It may just be the start of his era. Soon he will be the benchmark for drivers of the newish generation who were already considered benchmarks like Max, Charles. He brings a maturity the others do not have. Mark Webber has a big role to play in all of this. Oscar is managed very well.
He was behind, contact was max front right against lec’s sidepod.Matt2725 wrote:
I'm no fan of Max but there is nothing that says Max has to move over to let Charles take a better line into a corner.
Mehh it will all be forgotten. Every year since 2016 F-1 fans are shocked about Max's behavior and how he needs to be black flagged etc. The same surprise and shock will happen in 2026 when he's fighting with the Ford engine and "2 years without Newey" Chassis. We haven't seen real carnage yet! Just you wait!fritticaldi wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:43What a complete joke the FIA and Formula One has become. Ban Verstappen minimum two races. This is the trademark of a multiple world champion? Verstappen is a disgrace to the sport and the FIA is protecting him. FIA's Double Standards.
Of course he should've known and did. He was on a hard compound tyre on safety car restart and tried to follow a soft tyre shod McLaren through a fast right hand corner.
Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentionalvorticism wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:35Max was ahead at the apex just like George was ahead at the apex three laps prior. Per the Stewards Guide the corner was his and George should have given space. George did not give space and yet you call this ramming (bumping tire carcasses together in glancing blow by the outside car not giving space to the inside car ahead at the apex, per '25 Stewards Guide). The stewards failed to uphold their own rules in not punishing George for the lap 64 contact involving a corner which was not his, with him being behind at the apex.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:21Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!pantherxxx wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:10So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.
There are a handful of people who troll or are just so blinded by their Max fandom, that there is no reasoning with them.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentionalvorticism wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:35Max was ahead at the apex just like George was ahead at the apex three laps prior. Per the Stewards Guide the corner was his and George should have given space. George did not give space and yet you call this ramming (bumping tire carcasses together in glancing blow by the outside car not giving space to the inside car ahead at the apex, per '25 Stewards Guide). The stewards failed to uphold their own rules in not punishing George for the lap 64 contact involving a corner which was not his, with him being behind at the apex.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:21
Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!
Are you sure about that? You probably even saw his onboard, right?ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional
To suggest that the FIA plays favoritism with Verstappen requires some insane levels of blindness. lolfritticaldi wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:43What a complete joke the FIA and Formula One has become. Ban Verstappen minimum two races. This is the trademark of a multiple world champion? Verstappen is a disgrace to the sport and the FIA is protecting him. FIA's Double Standards.
"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional
For being the self proclaimed pinnacle of racing, they can’t run a race for crap. No other series has as many problems with this and just basic race directionvorticism wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:52"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional
Stewards don’t need that kind evidence for any of their rulings, this isn’t a trial.vorticism wrote:"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional
If Verstappen was ahead at the apex, why was he behind Russell until after the impact? Russell's onboard is extremely clear.vorticism wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:52"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.ToffeeTyres wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:26Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional