2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

[Wynters]

People should really be praising Piastri more. From someone so new to the sport, he's developed a heck of a long way in a short time. Perhaps most importantly for the number 1 driver this season, he's doing it with good race craft and clean, respectful racing.

[avantman]

Noticed that too.

And he understeered into the marbles on the final corner during the restart which set off the ensuing oversteer and chain of events. One could argue Max didn't get the Hard tyres warm enough when the others on softs did.
But he should have known that right away

If only Max knew what every armchair experts knows... he might actually be a decent driver.

There isn’t a single racing series on the planet where that doesn’t result in a pretty harsh penalty. That said, other series know how to run races and aren’t afraid of their drivers.

We certaintly know the FIA can’t run a race fairly to save their life though (making up rules, secret TD’s, etc).

that was not about an incident, but on him not knowing how hard would behave on the restart or not doing enough for warming them up ("But he should have known that right away").

[ringo]

People should really be praising Piastri more. From someone so new to the sport, he's developed a heck of a long way in a short time. Perhaps most importantly for the number 1 driver this season, he's doing it with good race craft and clean, respectful racing.

Agreed. It may just be the start of his era. Soon he will be the benchmark for drivers of the newish generation who were already considered benchmarks like Max, Charles. He brings a maturity the others do not have. Mark Webber has a big role to play in all of this. Oscar is managed very well.
Charles need to go find a way out if 2026 and 2027 are dud years. He's going to be another Montoya or Stirling Moss if he's not careful.

[dialtone]

I'm no fan of Max but there is nothing that says Max has to move over to let Charles take a better line into a corner.

He was behind, contact was max front right against lec’s sidepod.

He doesn’t have to move over but once you’re behind you move away as you can see better.

Max would do the same thing of closing off, he did so to Lando in Austria last year causing an accident with people defending Max here.

The hard tire was a complete disasterclass that if Ferrari did the same thing we would hear laughter from a few rooms away. It’s time to take out the clown pitwall meme for RBR as it’s not the first time they make bad mistakes in the pits or pit wall this year.

10s penalty is extremely lenient given penalties like vettel on ham in baku that was a 10s stop and go. And 3 points just below 4 is pathetic, just get rid of the point system.

EDIT: people have to understand that not all drivers will be bullied by Max. LEC isn’t one of them.

[ringo]

What a complete joke the FIA and Formula One has become. Ban Verstappen minimum two races. This is the trademark of a multiple world champion? Verstappen is a disgrace to the sport and the FIA is protecting him. FIA's Double Standards.

Mehh it will all be forgotten. Every year since 2016 F-1 fans are shocked about Max's behavior and how he needs to be black flagged etc. The same surprise and shock will happen in 2026 when he's fighting with the Ford engine and "2 years without Newey" Chassis. We haven't seen real carnage yet! Just you wait!

[Quantum]

that was not about an incident, but on him not knowing how hard would behave on the restart or not doing enough for warming them up ("But he should have known that right away").

Of course he should've known and did. He was on a hard compound tyre on safety car restart and tried to follow a soft tyre shod McLaren through a fast right hand corner.
He took the unrealistic risk and paid for it. What's controversial about that?

[ToffeeTyres]

So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.

Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!

Max was ahead at the apex just like George was ahead at the apex three laps prior. Per the Stewards Guide the corner was his and George should have given space. George did not give space and yet you call this ramming (bumping tire carcasses together in glancing blow by the outside car not giving space to the inside car ahead at the apex, per '25 Stewards Guide). The stewards failed to uphold their own rules in not punishing George for the lap 64 contact involving a corner which was not his, with him being behind at the apex.

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

[Hoffman900]

Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!

Max was ahead at the apex just like George was ahead at the apex three laps prior. Per the Stewards Guide the corner was his and George should have given space. George did not give space and yet you call this ramming (bumping tire carcasses together in glancing blow by the outside car not giving space to the inside car ahead at the apex, per '25 Stewards Guide). The stewards failed to uphold their own rules in not punishing George for the lap 64 contact involving a corner which was not his, with him being behind at the apex.

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

There are a handful of people who troll or are just so blinded by their Max fandom, that there is no reasoning with them.

[avantman]

Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

Are you sure about that? You probably even saw his onboard, right?
was he also aiming at Merc side pod but missed the target and rubbed his front tire instead?

Clearly, not even trying to turn left, just went straight into the gravel:

[Wynters]

How did Verstappen lose the spot to Russell? Either he deliberately let him past, in which case why did he come back up the inside like that? Or he accidentally forgot to both accelerate or stay on the racing line. Which is it? Deliberate? Or shockingly incompetent? It's the Brazil '21 question.

[Seanspeed]

What a complete joke the FIA and Formula One has become. Ban Verstappen minimum two races. This is the trademark of a multiple world champion? Verstappen is a disgrace to the sport and the FIA is protecting him. FIA's Double Standards.

To suggest that the FIA plays favoritism with Verstappen requires some insane levels of blindness. lol

I think it's just the stewards of the day being inconsistent as always.

But yes, he should have been DQ'd. Drivers make mistakes and misjudge things and cause collisions that deserve a 10 second penalty, but any driver who intentionally rams another driver, especially so blatantly and in anger, needs a giant hammer coming down on them immediately because that cannot be tolerated. Racing is too dangerous to treat this incident no differently than a typical racing accident.

Max definitely still has that childish temper tantrum nature about him. Thought maybe age and being a father would temper him a bit on that, but nope. Being raised by Jos will have its consequences, I guess.

[vorticism]

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.

[Hoffman900]

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.

For being the self proclaimed pinnacle of racing, they can’t run a race for crap. No other series has as many problems with this and just basic race direction

[dialtone]

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.

Stewards don’t need that kind evidence for any of their rulings, this isn’t a trial.

By your measure, they didn’t know Schumacher was trying to take out Villeneuve in ‘97 or that Vettel was angryat Hamilton in ‘17. Everyone with racing experience looking at the incident knows it was intentional.

Max cannot be both the GOAT and barely better than Stroll at the same time. Own it, he can take it.

[Wynters]

Max did that move in anger frustration and to retaliate. He was slowing down to let Russsell through but the red mist took over and intentionally rammed him. Did Max try take the corner? No he didn’t even turn the steering wheel he went straight on. It was blatantly intentional

"Hims was angery" is not acceptable as evidence. Your issue is with the stewards and their Guidebook. Max was ahead at the apex in 2025, therefor the corner was his George must give space or risk being pushed off or contacted. Those aren't my rules I just made up, they're their rules they just made up.

If Verstappen was ahead at the apex, why was he behind Russell until after the impact? Russell's onboard is extremely clear.