2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 10:29
Chuckjr wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 09:53
It changed when Luca left. They are a media team now, not a racing team, and that exactly imo is the philosophy that needs to change. They need to go back to their roots of hard core racing as the principal meaning, and lose the media motivation, but that just isn't going to happen. Money is king and will continue to guide this team imo, unfortunately.
Montezemolo was a colossal fraud as well.
He only did one thing right, that is convincing Fiat management to give him the money to relaunch the brand through F1. His ego almost pushed him to fire Todt in 96 but MSC saved Jean and that is when the real Ferrari was born. Montezemolo was completely pushed out from the GES which was managed only by Todt. This is why Ferrari was able to become the best team in the world.
When Montezemolo started to influence stuff once again, in 2006 things went to --- in just a few years. One of the worst manager of all time.

Just a small recap of his genius moves:
- Fired Schumacher to hire Raikkonen which is equivalent to divorce from 2007 Megan Fox to marry current Angela Merkel
- Allowed the ban of testing which was Ferrari main competitive advantage
- Didn't make Ross Brawn TP after Todt because he knew he couldn't "control" him. Ross left and went to build Brawn GP and then Mercedes. The rest is history
- Agreed to the hybrid PU which damaged not only Ferrari which was years and years behind Mercedes but also the entire Formula 1 with one of the most boring era of all time
- Fired Aldo Costa, one of the best engineers in F1 modern era, for absolutely no reasons at all
Good post. At no point did I ever see Luca as any team management genius. He's just a good businessman like Bernie or Flavio. He was in charge from the 70s or 80s. So to only get good results when Todt took the wheel of the F1 team in late 90s doesnt say much for him.
Chuck Jr. might be looking through the rose tinted glasses of Nostalgia. Ferrari F1 has been abovr average for almost half of their 75 years in F1. Before schumacher the last champion was Jody Sheckter in 1979 i think?
That's a loonnnggg time compared to Michael and Kimi then nobody right now.
So it's the same old team. Being able to make more money is a plus, but nothing has degraded F1 team wise. There is stiffer, better funded competition in F1. We have budget caps which also weaken Ferrari. Fred and Binnotto are Third to Todt. Domenicali was not bad either. But his tenure was very frustrating. So Luca isn't even top 3 in Ferrari management.
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Track dominance shows Hamilton doing better than Leclerc in the slower corners. Looks like he's improved his braking but seems to be struggling with acceleration, anyone have more data or info to support this? Don't want to read too much into that bit of info.

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As predicted, pace is strong, Charles in particular. He did multiple push laps on the soft, so a reasonable amount of fuel in it. You imagine he’s still building up a bit too, so seems promising.

Don’t want to jinx anything but between this and Le Mans, things are looking a bit more positive than I was expecting when I woke up this morning .

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I just read an article from Corriere dello Sport and honestly, I can’t believe this is real if it’s true. Apparently, Ferrari made two changes to the ride height on Hamilton’s SF-25 without even telling him, and he only found out after the race in Spain.

The reporter literally writes: “Two changes related to the ride height were made to Hamilton’s car without his knowledge. You read that right: Lewis knew nothing about it and was only informed after the race, and he took it very badly.”

How does something like this happen at Ferrari. No wonder Hamilton sounded so frustrated on the radio and called it the “worst car ever.” That’s next-level chaos.
https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/ ... dice_tutto
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i don't want to bother with Corrierdellosport. they just want to talk crap about team now that top brass wants to see fred out..

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You can even tell from the way that article title is written that it's tabloid rubbish for clicks :lol:

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El_KaPpa wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 21:30
I just read an article from Corriere dello Sport and honestly, I can’t believe this is real if it’s true. Apparently, Ferrari made two changes to the ride height on Hamilton’s SF-25 without even telling him, and he only found out after the race in Spain.

The reporter literally writes: “Two changes related to the ride height were made to Hamilton’s car without his knowledge. You read that right: Lewis knew nothing about it and was only informed after the race, and he took it very badly.”

How does something like this happen at Ferrari. No wonder Hamilton sounded so frustrated on the radio and called it the “worst car ever.” That’s next-level chaos.
https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/ ... dice_tutto
Absolute crap. Driver does driving & he along with the team opts for the setup based on FP data collected. No team will do such thing.

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Ham P5
Leclerc P8

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That strategy for Lewis that entire qually was insane.

There was a better grid position on offer today.

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Leclerc had a purple first sector on his last run. He would have been in the top three.

What the f was that? Even as an armchair expert, it was obvious to me that the medium (C5) was faster.

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Leclerc shouldn't have pitted, that was dumb from him.

Also really weird choice to use an extra set for Hamilton in Q1.

They could've been much higher here...

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j_ste wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:11
That strategy for Lewis that entire qually was insane.

There was a better grid position on offer today.
Yea i think sending Lewis out on new tires in Q1 and Q2 when he was safe wasnt great, i think they should have also tried the medium tire as it was clearly the better tire. everyone ahead of Lewis minus Piastri were on mediums

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j_ste wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:11
That strategy for Lewis that entire qually was insane.

There was a better grid position on offer today.
Don't even get me started on that. Hamilton set a good time before the red flag in Q1, somehow they still decided to waste a new set of soft tyres at the restart while Leclerc who was below him on the time sheet was put on same used softs.

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Seems like we keep having some should coulda wouldas on a Saturday. I’d love to see what Charles could do with race pace if starting position was better but now we’re going to have the typical slog to salvage, at best, a podium. I think top 3 was on the table and possibly even pole because the first sector was usually the worst for Ferrari. Such a shame