WEC 2025

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Sevach wrote:I was worried about the BOP putting Ferrari with less power after 250 KM/H, but the car sure is fast down the straight.
Ferrari has the most aerodynamic platform of the lot. It’s why their BoP favors low power rather than high weight.

But they are down a lot compared to the usual straight performance.

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no51 hit 364 kph :shock: .. does corrent f1 car hit those speed bar mexico?

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dialtone wrote:
12 Jun 2025, 22:00
LMAO at the crowd that LMDH wasn't going to be competitive because ACO is not good at doing the BoP. 1-6 in quali are LMDH cars, 1 Ferrari in top 10, Toyota 10th, only 2 LMH in the top 10 and not in the first half of it.
Bourdais put it quite well after qualifying when he said Ferrari are taking the piss. He was not wrong.

With Toyota slowly creeping up the order as well, we will again see the LMH inherent advantage as we have seen the past two years. Unless they slap on 15 kgs on the Ferrari and another 5 on the Toyota, there will never be a real fight in a race like this between the platforms. Really hope they finally learn from this.

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Ferrari's pace is exceptional indeed.
Porsche #6 is still hanging in there after it's other cars dropped, but Ferrari have a lot more pace.

I don't know if Cadilac, BMW and Toyota have anything to offer.

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Fakepivot wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 18:45
no51 hit 364 kph :shock: .. does corrent f1 car hit those speed bar mexico?
Hmmm, I guess they would in Le Mans if set up for Le Mans?
Has anybody calculated how current F1 cars would go in the Le Mans Grand Prix?
TANSTAAFL

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50 Ferrari is just 30s ahead after 5 hours basically without any interruption to racing.

Everyone's pace is very close and the evening/night will as usual shuffle the order as the temperature gets colder.

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Guess the BoP changed nothing and continues to prove my point about how bad it is. Ferrari hit 364KPH on the speed traps, Porsche pace is decent, Toyota is struggling as usual for this year.

Ferrari is running around 1.5 seconds aster than the next manufacture car. I can not make this up :lol:
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SB15 wrote:Guess the BoP changed nothing and continues to prove my point about how bad it is. Ferrari hit 364KPH on the speed traps, Porsche pace is decent, Toyota is struggling as usual for this year.
364 in the slipstream of 5 cars. Multiple times the porsche passed the 83 back again and resisted attacks.

It’s not the straight but the tire performance.

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dialtone wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 21:52
SB15 wrote:Guess the BoP changed nothing and continues to prove my point about how bad it is. Ferrari hit 364KPH on the speed traps, Porsche pace is decent, Toyota is struggling as usual for this year.
364 in the slipstream of 5 cars. Multiple times the porsche passed the 83 back again and resisted attacks.

It’s not the straight but the tire performance.
It's the aero efficiency + the tire performance + the low engine mode because they're able to extend longer while maintaining pace quicker than the rest of the field.

This is joke. Honestly, A joke! This BoP stuff, I will never like, no one can convince me.

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SB15 wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 21:55
dialtone wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 21:52
SB15 wrote:Guess the BoP changed nothing and continues to prove my point about how bad it is. Ferrari hit 364KPH on the speed traps, Porsche pace is decent, Toyota is struggling as usual for this year.
364 in the slipstream of 5 cars. Multiple times the porsche passed the 83 back again and resisted attacks.

It’s not the straight but the tire performance.
It's the aero efficiency + the tire performance + the low engine mode because they're able to extend longer while maintaining pace quicker than the rest of the field.

This is joke. Honestly, A joke! This BoP stuff, I will never like, no one can convince me.
You are reacting waaaay too early.

#50 and #51 are clearly paying the price of hitting those times with lower stint energy than the Porsche #6 and Ferrari #83.

50 and 51 are looking like they could have one extra pit stop by the end of the race if nothing changes, they aren't really 2nd and 3rd, the Porsche is really 2nd if they can hold.

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What's going on with the #50 Ferrari?

Edit: Apparently it was a drive through penalty that I missed. Anyone know for what?

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lh13 wrote:
14 Jun 2025, 23:24
What's going on with the #50 Ferrari?

Edit: Apparently it was a drive through penalty that I missed. Anyone know for what?
Speeding in a slow zone I think

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It is very slow since serving the penalty. Overtaken by BMW, and looks like by Toyota soon. Could be down to fuel difference.

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Ferrari seems better under sunlight, the weathered night time where they weren't flying and now are starting to gap everyone.

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Sevach wrote:Ferrari seems better under sunlight, the weathered night time where they weren't flying and now are starting to gap everyone.
Yeah Toyota was definitely stronger overnight and the penalties didn’t help Ferrari either but the SC nullified all the problems.

It was interesting the pit wall of #50 asked the driver to lift and coast more while he was fighting with #8 and immediately lost 3s in a couple of laps.

After 16 hours 4 brands are within 1 minute. It’s really good imho.