2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[MYsee]

This, like previous episodes, appears more like a powerplay then an exit.

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This, like previous episodes, appears more like a powerplay then an exit.

I don't agree. Toto has been talking to max since beginning of 2023. Now is the most appealing it's been to leave the team

[Vettel165]

Hope Max leaves and goes to Mercedes. I will follow him no matter where he goes.

This team is in a downfall state, a sinking ship.

[pantherxxx]

I would prefer if Red Bull would make a fast car and Verstappen would win with them, but if they're unable to do that, then it's better if he leaves the team, and maybe he will win with Mercedes. I like Red Bull as a team, but I'm mostly a fan of Verstappen, more than Red Bull.

[MYsee]

This, like previous episodes, appears more like a powerplay then an exit.

I don't agree. Toto has been talking to max since beginning of 2023. Now is the most appealing it's been to leave the team

It was also an ideal time last year when Horner had his scandal, Newey left, Wheatley left, McLaren making gains, the car struggling, before this season started etc.

There's no doubt conversation have been had for the last 2-3 years but he remains a Redbull despite those convos.

I also think if Verstappen was close to Mercedes, we would be hearing more from Russell's end as he's the driver without a contract.

[FNTC]

It was also an ideal time last year when Horner had his scandal, Newey left, Wheatley left, McLaren making gains, the car struggling, before this season started etc.

There's no doubt conversation have been had for the last 2-3 years but he remains a Redbull despite those convos.

Key difference now is the probable fact that the exit clause is being triggered. He could not leave when he was leading the WDC.

[MYsee]

It was also an ideal time last year when Horner had his scandal, Newey left, Wheatley left, McLaren making gains, the car struggling, before this season started etc.

There's no doubt conversation have been had for the last 2-3 years but he remains a Redbull despite those convos.

Key difference now is the probable fact that the exit clause is being triggered. He could not leave when he was leading the WDC.

Probable on what planet? If the clause talked about is true, he's still 36 pts ahead of Charles. Unless something drastic happens in the next 3 races, he'll be in the top 4 after Belgium.

[FNTC]

I haven't seen the contract, but Doornbos seems to think its being triggered: https://racingnews365.com/former-red-bu ... act-clause

RacingNews365 understands that Verstappen can leave the Austrian outfit at the end of the year if he falls outside the top three of the F1 drivers' standings at some point during the summer.

However, Doornbos has insisted that an additional clause in the 27-year-old's contract is that he can quit Red Bull if the team is outside the top three in the constructors' title – it is currently in fourth.

"The other clause dictates that Verstappen can leave if Red Bull is not in the top three among the constructors'," Doornbos said on the Ziggo Sport Race Cafe.

"Of that I know, it's in there 100,000% for sure. Because if a team can't deliver more, then a driver can't deliver either."

Who knows what the actual contract says. But the point stands, he could not have left last year.

[Sergej]

If he wants to leave he will leave, no matter what clause has been triggered or not.

[Waz]

A clause that he can trigger himself seems odd. I don't buy it. You would legally give him grounds to perform below his own level.

By mid season, 5th is still usually in touching distance of the lead, so one or two timely spins into a gravel trap and he's there.

WCC position is so dependent on the other driver, were Red Bull in such denial that they would risk losing their star by relying on Lawson and then Tsunoda?

Maybe a more realistic scenario is that both conditions must be true to trigger the clause. Probably with a third condition related to teammate points.

[basti313]

A clause that he can trigger himself seems odd. I don't buy it. You would legally give him grounds to perform below his own level.

By mid season, 5th is still usually in touching distance of the lead, so one or two timely spins into a gravel trap and he's there.

WCC position is so dependent on the other driver, were Red Bull in such denial that they would risk losing their star by relying on Lawson and then Tsunoda?

Maybe a more realistic scenario is that both conditions must be true to trigger the clause. Probably with a third condition related to teammate points.

I also do not buy the WDC standing as a trigger. But why not team standings? This is a usual measure and "normally" a good measure how the team performs.

[Wouter]

Helmut Marko in Der Kleine Zeitung 3. Juli 2025, :

https://www.kleinezeitung.at/sport/moto ... -gar-nicht

Transfer rumors "annoy" Red Bull

Helmut Marko has clearly refuted the reports from Italy: "He hasn't signed and can't," said the Graz native regarding the latest rumors. As Marko emphasized several times in Spielberg, the Dutch superstar has a contract until 2028. Logically, this contract, as usual, includes an exit clause in the event of a lack of sporting success. However, at the moment, the sporting conditions for an early termination of the contract are far from being met.

Therefore, Marko is also confused by the recurring topic. "It's just getting annoying. The same questions keep coming up, and we keep giving the same answers, because the situation hasn't changed." The world champion himself, logically, remains silent when asked about his future plans. In Spielberg, all he could say was "no comment."

[FittingMechanics]

This is also why Mercedes and the journalists say that Max hasn't said an official Yes (because he isn't allowed to) and that Mercedes hasn't made an official offer (because Max can't negotiate with the teams while under contract).

So everyone is saying truth, Max hasn't signed for Mercedes and they haven't made an offer, but probably the moment Max triggers his exit clause he gets a contract and he signs it.

Max fans, I would postpone any merch buys

[MYsee]

I haven't seen the contract, but Doornbos seems to think its being triggered: https://racingnews365.com/former-red-bu ... act-clause

RacingNews365 understands that Verstappen can leave the Austrian outfit at the end of the year if he falls outside the top three of the F1 drivers' standings at some point during the summer.

However, Doornbos has insisted that an additional clause in the 27-year-old's contract is that he can quit Red Bull if the team is outside the top three in the constructors' title – it is currently in fourth.

"The other clause dictates that Verstappen can leave if Red Bull is not in the top three among the constructors'," Doornbos said on the Ziggo Sport Race Cafe.

"Of that I know, it's in there 100,000% for sure. Because if a team can't deliver more, then a driver can't deliver either."

Who knows what the actual contract says. But the point stands, he could not have left last year.

Marko says he can't leave this year and none of the levers are close to being triggered. So exactly the same as last year's.

[Watto]

I haven't seen the contract, but Doornbos seems to think its being triggered: https://racingnews365.com/former-red-bu ... act-clause

RacingNews365 understands that Verstappen can leave the Austrian outfit at the end of the year if he falls outside the top three of the F1 drivers' standings at some point during the summer.

However, Doornbos has insisted that an additional clause in the 27-year-old's contract is that he can quit Red Bull if the team is outside the top three in the constructors' title – it is currently in fourth.

"The other clause dictates that Verstappen can leave if Red Bull is not in the top three among the constructors'," Doornbos said on the Ziggo Sport Race Cafe.

"Of that I know, it's in there 100,000% for sure. Because if a team can't deliver more, then a driver can't deliver either."

Who knows what the actual contract says. But the point stands, he could not have left last year.

Marko says he can't leave this year and none of the levers are close to being triggered. So exactly the same as last year's.

I think there is some truth to what Fitting Mechanic says above though, I'm probably not a sure a he seems the the deal is all but done waiting for the cause to become official. But likely right now Max's has no active clause in his contact to leave. Merc can't offer him a contract while his RBR contract is still very much in force. It comes across to me as pretty standard talk of players under contract seeking transfers or having their management test the waters