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The Marca article is paywalled but how are they supposed to bring a 2026 rear suspension when the gearbox is gonna be completely different next year? It doesn't make any sense to me.

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quincalla wrote:
02 Jul 2025, 22:29
The Marca article is paywalled but how are they supposed to bring a 2026 rear suspension when the gearbox is gonna be completely different next year? It doesn't make any sense to me.
They won’t change the whole rear suspension but we may see parts and aereo parts tested on the AMR25.

It will be very interesting to see the second half of the season as all teams will carry tests for 2026. We will see different approaches.

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Nikosar wrote:
02 Jul 2025, 23:02
quincalla wrote:
02 Jul 2025, 22:29
The Marca article is paywalled but how are they supposed to bring a 2026 rear suspension when the gearbox is gonna be completely different next year? It doesn't make any sense to me.
They won’t change the whole rear suspension but we may see parts and aereo parts tested on the AMR25.

It will be very interesting to see the second half of the season as all teams will carry tests for 2026. We will see different approaches.
I Agree, I have no idea what they mean. My guess would be that they can test the front and rear suspension internals cause everything else is gonna be different next year.

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https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... g-25070202
Das Handicap-System in der Formel 1 - Windkanalversuche
Wie viele Runs im Windkanal dürfen die Teams für die Aero-Entwicklung machen?

             Aero in % Windkanal-Run
Team   (ab 01.07.2025) (ab 01.07.2025)
McLaren.           70. 224
Ferrari.           75. 240
Mercedes.          80. 256
Red Bull.          85. 272
Williams.          90. 288
Racing Bulls       95. 304
Haas.             100. 320
Aston Martin.     105. 336
Sauber.           110. 352
Alpine.           115. 368

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It's getting hot.
Hopes Aston extends Alonso contract for 27

Waz
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quincalla wrote:
02 Jul 2025, 22:29
The Marca article is paywalled but how are they supposed to bring a 2026 rear suspension when the gearbox is gonna be completely different next year? It doesn't make any sense to me.
The gearbox is fitted inside a case that the suspension mounts to. I don't see a reason they couldn't bring a new outer case.

That's if they believe the mounting point location needs changing

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ALO tries the updates first this time.

He says (not in the tweet) that the package is not as big as in Imola. I guess he also wants lower expectations, I believe that he said something similar in Imola too.

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Waz wrote:
03 Jul 2025, 08:17
quincalla wrote:
02 Jul 2025, 22:29
The Marca article is paywalled but how are they supposed to bring a 2026 rear suspension when the gearbox is gonna be completely different next year? It doesn't make any sense to me.
The gearbox is fitted inside a case that the suspension mounts to. I don't see a reason they couldn't bring a new outer case.

That's if they believe the mounting point location needs changing
MB have recently moved theirs, rear suspension pickup points, meaning there's possibility to follow the same shift in rear geometry .... and or flexibility in how they use existing pickup locations.

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Fernando downplaying the upgrade. Saying it’s not as big as imola one. Top 8 order won’t change. Imola update performed better than expected in regards to what number it gave in the wind tunnel

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diffuser wrote:
03 Jul 2025, 03:52
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... g-25070202
Das Handicap-System in der Formel 1 - Windkanalversuche
Wie viele Runs im Windkanal dürfen die Teams für die Aero-Entwicklung machen?

             Aero in % Windkanal-Run
Team   (ab 01.07.2025) (ab 01.07.2025)
McLaren.           70. 224
Ferrari.           75. 240
Mercedes.          80. 256
Red Bull.          85. 272
Williams.          90. 288
Racing Bulls       95. 304
Haas.             100. 320
Aston Martin.     105. 336
Sauber.           110. 352
Alpine.           115. 368
Welcome to the era of regulations, rules, and standards.

I now better understand the rush to develop the AMR26, calibrate the new wind tunnel, and the necessary software... while they try to improve the AMR25.

After thinking about it for a while, I think Silverstone will bring us joy: not in vain has the team assembled a very competent group of people. It's what I have the most confidence in to make the car more effective and efficient. After Silverstone, I don't expect much more than fine-tuning the setup.
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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SSJ4 wrote:
03 Jul 2025, 14:45
Fernando downplaying the upgrade. Saying it’s not as big as imola one. Top 8 order won’t change. Imola update performed better than expected in regards to what number it gave in the wind tunnel
Strange. Andy Cowell said the opposite. The Imola update was positive but not as much as they were expecting.

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-wkst- wrote:
03 Jul 2025, 14:33


ALO tries the updates first this time.

He says (not in the tweet) that the package is not as big as in Imola. I guess he also wants lower expectations, I believe that he said something similar in Imola too.
That's disappointing if it is smaller than Imola, I think they were saying Imola was a 1 tenth upgrade or something.

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SSJ4 wrote:
03 Jul 2025, 14:45
Fernando downplaying the upgrade. Saying it’s not as big as imola one. Top 8 order won’t change. Imola update performed better than expected in regards to what number it gave in the wind tunnel
Disappointing, was hoping more for the last upgrade of the year

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We need calm down. Cowell said this upgrade is based on Imola and Imola the focus was the bodywork and a little changes in the floor and now is the opposite, the principal target is the floor and a little changes in the body to improve the air flow around the rear tyres. This floor guys, this floor is the key. Will see.

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First update developed in the new tunnel, with tips from Newey. My hopes are high, but let's see. Probably won't be able to fight the top 4 teams, that would be crazy, but hopefully enough to fight the other mid field teams from now on.