2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Dee wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 11:51
Respectfully, the car was not keeping to the technical rules as it was disqualified in the race even after raising it after the sprint. How can you judge the car design knowing that fact?

Lewis liking the balance of the car when it was outside the regs gives no credence to it's design characteristics when its within the regs.
Is this a joke comment or?
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Waz wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 11:37
If the car is inherently neutral, it's going to be fast. The narrative that only front loaded cars are fast is false and being pushed only by Red Bull's Pierre Wache to defend their shortcomings as a team.
If the car is inherently balanced, no? Neutral means what in your view? From what I have seen, a driver that can cope with more front, can improve the performance of that car, making it faster for himself. And why the focus on Wache? Newey has designed the most WDC winning cars in F1 and one of his core characteristics is oversteer or point focused cars. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... z76kEHGefF

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1. Mekies leaving is a good thing, or did you forget the horror show of race operations that he was responsible for. His influence is visible at VCARB where they have had 1 decent race operationally in 2 years. Sanchez was so controlling that he got sacked by McLaren in 3 months. And now, how's that Alpine doing?

2. Wache has led Red Bull down the wrong road, ignoring Newey of all people, so far that they are completely lost to the point that Verstappen might even leave.

Serra at Mercedes hadn't been able to solve anything, so don't hold much hope.

3. Cardille was so unhappy about the highly slim chance of working under Newey at Ferrari that he decided to leave and definitely go work under him at Aston Martin? That seems like a very poorly thought out point.

And while race operations and tactics have improved under Vasseur, the technical department has been thrown into disarray and it shows.

Personally, I hope he continues in his role, simply because each new TP comes along with the idea of placing "their" team in place, and it's always the Technical leadership that's changed.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 11:57
Dee wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 11:51
Respectfully, the car was not keeping to the technical rules as it was disqualified in the race even after raising it after the sprint. How can you judge the car design knowing that fact?

Lewis liking the balance of the car when it was outside the regs gives no credence to it's design characteristics when its within the regs.
Is this a joke comment or?
Well, can you explain your reasoning?

The only time this entire year that Lewis liked the car was in the Chinese sprint race and the car was later disqualified in the race when they had to make some changes to the balance.

If the balance in the sprint that Lewis liked was within the regs, why has it not been used in every race since?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... hatgpt.com

“I don’t know who said that we lifted the car, but no… We made some other changes mostly, as well as that, but not massively, it’s like small amounts. But all the pieces together made it quite a bit worse.”

They raised the car from sprint to Qualy, that's why the balance changed and it was still disqualified.

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car looking decent under charles, barely see him fight..

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Fakepivot wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 13:58
car looking decent under charles, barely see him fight..
Track temps will be much lower tomorrow unfortunately

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Dee wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 12:08
If the balance in the sprint that Lewis liked was within the regs, why has it not been used in every race since?
We've been discussing this for months and, again, this is the big issue they confirmed they have in China. The setup the car was designed around is not available due to excessive plank wear with the ride height they aimed for, due to rear suspension collapsing under too much load. The changes they've since had to make to have a legal car have shifted the balance in a way Hamilton doesn't enjoy and Leclerc can just barely cope with
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The car looks very good, the floor looks like it's doing what is supposed to do regarding the operational window.
The new suspension can't come soon enough eh?
The SkyF1 Team are talking that Charles said he hopes for a much brighter 2nd half of season.

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man, I really really hope it don't rain tomorrow and on Sunday... I can't trust this team to operate to full capacity on rainny days.. but the car looked so neat, compare that to sf24 last year where they looked so lost this is positive..

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I didn't watch FP1 but I guess the car is decent. It's good to see that the team is in the fight even though one expects McLarens to be the chief protagonists

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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 11:27

On technical side of SF-25

1) the core concept was laid out by Cardille, with some of Byrne's advice ignored. In the mean time, we got confirmation form several sources that Cardille did think highly of himself and wanted to control everything - while he was obviously not up to the task of deciding suspension concept and performance targets
Which Byrne's advice he ignored?
When you say "not up to the task of deciding suspension concept and performance targets", you mean in general or specifically for the front axle?

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HAM did 331kph before Stowe corner in lap 24, the last lap of his short race sim. In the previous lap, he did only 323.7 kph, although in both cases he had DRS-on; hence, the reason is that he got a tow in front of him?

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Ok. Why are we so fast here?

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I hate when rival team sandbag.. but lewis looking good O.o charles looks good as well he complained bit of understeer

edit:- car looks great in s2, in the snakes it so nice to watch onboard, but in slow speed charles is sliding around

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We really struggling in S1.