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[r85]

anyone know what this other thing Charles talking about that is a problem? i mean we have so far covered everything from suspension, gearbox, brakes... humm what else another issue that they want to keep it to themself..

This doesn’t pin it to anything but Leclerc says it’s something to do with the ‘high speed’

Battery deployment?

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... rari-back/

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the general philosophy of Ferrari's engine is that it deploys hard out of the corners but starts clipping or is not so fast at the end of the straight, maybe that's why the top speed might have been lower for Charles. Perhaps today it hurt them more today because Silverstone is a power track.

[CjC]

It was brought up in this article too

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... -paid-off/

Something to do with the engine overheating in the highest power mode (I would suggest battery- an overheating battery isn’t as efficient as a battery working in it optimum temperature)

Ferrari didn’t find as much time as the others when the PU is cranked right up for the pole laps according to the article

[ScuderiaLeo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the general philosophy of Ferrari's engine is that it deploys hard out of the corners but starts clipping or is not so fast at the end of the straight, maybe that's why the top speed might have been lower for Charles. Perhaps today it hurt them more today because Silverstone is a power track.

But why would it only affect Leclerc at the end there?

Unless they took different approaches. In the end it barely made a difference for the lap time, but it's strange to see such a big difference

[r85]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the general philosophy of Ferrari's engine is that it deploys hard out of the corners but starts clipping or is not so fast at the end of the straight, maybe that's why the top speed might have been lower for Charles. Perhaps today it hurt them more today because Silverstone is a power track.

But why would it only affect Leclerc at the end there?

Unless they took different approaches. In the end it barely made a difference for the lap time, but it's strange to see such a big difference

Mercedes had clutch problems in 2016 and that was affecting the race starts or just outright performance but it was Lewis who was more often getting the short end of that stick so it can always be engine. Today it was Leclerc and maybe another day will hit Hamilton.

But considering that they don't want to share anything about it, if it's about the engine I don't think they want to open up that can of worms especially with the new engine regs coming in as it might put more pressure on them as well as the other Ferrari customers from next year.

[Fakepivot]

charles is pretty vocal about his dislike for next year reg, if they are behind battery tech then good lord.. i man they been doing battry tech for more than decade from road car hybrid to even endurance race car, surly they are not that behind..

[Seanspeed]

He would have been p1. He was ahead of Verstappen but went too wide into the chicane compromising him through the right hander

You're very much mistaken here. Verstappen was literally purple in S1 and S2, while being the last guy of the front runners out there, meaning it's genuinely impossible for Lewis to have been faster than him up til S3.

P2 was the max possible for Lewis/Ferrari. Maybe P2+P3 if both Lewis and Charles had perfect laps, but I think only Mclaren could have touched Verstappen's time.

He was ahead on the onboards in the middle of the chicane by the reference of a scuffed part of asphalt. If Hamilton hadn't ran onto the dirt he wouldn't have created such a late entry into the chicane compromising the right hander. It doesn't matter if Verstappen was purple if he was only up by a few hundredths because he has been losing to the Ferrari in the final sector all weekend

What onboard did you see that demonstrated this?

If it's one of those 'overlay' things, they've already been shown to be quite inaccurate.

Verstappen was over a tenth ahead of where Lewis was heading into S3. Nobody was touching him. Lewis didn't lose three tenths+ in that last sector, it was just that little bit scruffy enough to lose out on P2 on what was a very tight qualifying between literally six different drivers.

Also if we're talking final sector, Ferrari had been missing out versus Mclaren there all weekend as well. If either Norris or Piastri had a great lap, they'd likely have been ahead of wherever Lewis would have ended up anyways. Genuinely four drivers were subpar to some degree. Verstappen and Russell were the only ones to put it all together, but Mclaren are still the fastest car.

[proteus]

You're very much mistaken here. Verstappen was literally purple in S1 and S2, while being the last guy of the front runners out there, meaning it's genuinely impossible for Lewis to have been faster than him up til S3.

P2 was the max possible for Lewis/Ferrari. Maybe P2+P3 if both Lewis and Charles had perfect laps, but I think only Mclaren could have touched Verstappen's time.

He was ahead on the onboards in the middle of the chicane by the reference of a scuffed part of asphalt. If Hamilton hadn't ran onto the dirt he wouldn't have created such a late entry into the chicane compromising the right hander. It doesn't matter if Verstappen was purple if he was only up by a few hundredths because he has been losing to the Ferrari in the final sector all weekend

What onboard did you see that demonstrated this?

If it's one of those 'overlay' things, they've already been shown to be quite inaccurate.

Verstappen was over a tenth ahead of where Lewis was heading into S3. Nobody was touching him. Lewis didn't lose three tenths+ in that last sector, it was just that little bit scruffy enough to lose out on P2 on what was a very tight qualifying between literally six different drivers.

Also if we're talking final sector, Ferrari had been missing out versus Mclaren there all weekend as well. If either Norris or Piastri had a great lap, they'd likely have been ahead of wherever Lewis would have ended up anyways. Genuinely four drivers were subpar to some degree. Verstappen and Russell were the only ones to put it all together, but Mclaren are still the fastest car.

Its all about "could, would, should". In the end all of the drivers (Verstappen, Norris, Piastri and Hamilton) made a mistake one way or another in the S3 in their last try.

[f1isgood]

He was ahead on the onboards in the middle of the chicane by the reference of a scuffed part of asphalt. If Hamilton hadn't ran onto the dirt he wouldn't have created such a late entry into the chicane compromising the right hander. It doesn't matter if Verstappen was purple if he was only up by a few hundredths because he has been losing to the Ferrari in the final sector all weekend

What onboard did you see that demonstrated this?

If it's one of those 'overlay' things, they've already been shown to be quite inaccurate.

Verstappen was over a tenth ahead of where Lewis was heading into S3. Nobody was touching him. Lewis didn't lose three tenths+ in that last sector, it was just that little bit scruffy enough to lose out on P2 on what was a very tight qualifying between literally six different drivers.

Also if we're talking final sector, Ferrari had been missing out versus Mclaren there all weekend as well. If either Norris or Piastri had a great lap, they'd likely have been ahead of wherever Lewis would have ended up anyways. Genuinely four drivers were subpar to some degree. Verstappen and Russell were the only ones to put it all together, but Mclaren are still the fastest car.

Its all about "could, would, should". In the end all of the drivers (Verstappen, Norris, Piastri and Hamilton) made a mistake one way or another in the S3 in their last try.

I am not sure if Verstappen had any visible errors althought it is definitely possible I missed it. His S3 was yellow because he said himself he took it easy after being 2.5 tenths up on Oscar. So there's that.

Others did have errors.

[deadhead]

charles is pretty vocal about his dislike for next year reg, if they are behind battery tech then good lord.. i man they been doing battry tech for more than decade from road car hybrid to even endurance race car, surly they are not that behind..

I think the fuel would be the most likely culprit

[Juzh]

charles is pretty vocal about his dislike for next year reg, if they are behind battery tech then good lord.. i man they been doing battry tech for more than decade from road car hybrid to even endurance race car, surly they are not that behind..

I think the fuel would be the most likely culprit

Why's that?

[r85]

Vigna has told Sky Sports that the team is in contract renewal talks with Fred: "Fred is the team principal. We're in July, we have time. We are arguing, there is confidence. We had lunch together and we will see each other again.”

https://autoracer.it/vigna-vasseur-rinn ... lverstone/

[Spacepace]

You're very much mistaken here. Verstappen was literally purple in S1 and S2, while being the last guy of the front runners out there, meaning it's genuinely impossible for Lewis to have been faster than him up til S3.

P2 was the max possible for Lewis/Ferrari. Maybe P2+P3 if both Lewis and Charles had perfect laps, but I think only Mclaren could have touched Verstappen's time.

He was ahead on the onboards in the middle of the chicane by the reference of a scuffed part of asphalt. If Hamilton hadn't ran onto the dirt he wouldn't have created such a late entry into the chicane compromising the right hander. It doesn't matter if Verstappen was purple if he was only up by a few hundredths because he has been losing to the Ferrari in the final sector all weekend

What onboard did you see that demonstrated this?

If it's one of those 'overlay' things, they've already been shown to be quite inaccurate.

Verstappen was over a tenth ahead of where Lewis was heading into S3. Nobody was touching him. Lewis didn't lose three tenths+ in that last sector, it was just that little bit scruffy enough to lose out on P2 on what was a very tight qualifying between literally six different drivers.

Also if we're talking final sector, Ferrari had been missing out versus Mclaren there all weekend as well. If either Norris or Piastri had a great lap, they'd likely have been ahead of wherever Lewis would have ended up anyways. Genuinely four drivers were subpar to some degree. Verstappen and Russell were the only ones to put it all together, but Mclaren are still the fastest car.

Anthony Davidson

[DGP123]

No pace. Leclerc doing the lawnmower and Hamilton going backwards

[djones]

Hamilton driving like a complete rookie in the wet. Strange to see.

[Kiss the Apex]

Classic Ferrari wet race. When was the last time we won a wet race?