2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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They gambled on track position and a dry race. That didnt work out obviously.

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absolute disaster. meanwhile mclaren macking a mockery of the field

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Hulk in a sauber faster by 0,5s in free air than Ver. sickening

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pantherxxx wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 16:55
Huge mistake from Red Bull, giving Verstpappen low df setup, when it's alwas raining in Silverstone. He had no chance with this setup, in these conditions.
if you put a little bit of downforce on the car it will understeer ,that car is a nightmare.

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could have been a podium, not more imho

I think Oscar's shenanigans made Max's tyres drop temperature hence the spin, anyway a bad mistake from Max

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i was very brief just a spit second ,putting power of low downforce car induce rear to be lose

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Honestly without the spin at safety car restart, Verstappen was in a good position. Lando would need to overtake him again and Piastri had 10 second penalty.

McLaren probably had pace enough to win but Max does have his moments.

As a McLaren fan I am happy that he spun.

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TNTHead wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:00
They gambled on track position and a dry race. That didnt work out obviously.
no, they were just trying to balance out their horribly understeery car by taking rear downforce off it.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56
Honestly without the spin at safety car restart, Verstappen was in a good position. Lando would need to overtake him again and Piastri had 10 second penalty.

McLaren probably had pace enough to win but Max does have his moments.

As a McLaren fan I am happy that he spun.
so, red bull was actually a good car in the race, lol.
as a mclaren, mercedes and ferrari (and even some redbull) fans rightfully say )))

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Juzh wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:01
absolute disaster. meanwhile mclaren macking a mockery of the field
is it because they are able to cool their rear tires better on such cool wet day? Hehe. Or we have to finally admit they just have much more grip/downforce in real race situation, at race loads, cornering speeds and ground clearance.

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avantman wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:24
FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56
Honestly without the spin at safety car restart, Verstappen was in a good position. Lando would need to overtake him again and Piastri had 10 second penalty.

McLaren probably had pace enough to win but Max does have his moments.

As a McLaren fan I am happy that he spun.
so, red bull was actually a good car in the race, lol.
as a mclaren, mercedes and ferrari (and even some redbull) fans rightfully say )))
My point is more that Verstappen did really well to extract the most of what he was given, it's unfortunate he lost the lead but he was still in a pretty good position to challenge for the win. It's tough to say would it be enough as McLaren had best pace at the end but he still maximized.

Other than the spin.

About the car, I am always puzzled how they can go these low downforce setups and still manage to run a good race. Truly incredible.

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avantman wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:24
FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56
Honestly without the spin at safety car restart, Verstappen was in a good position. Lando would need to overtake him again and Piastri had 10 second penalty.

McLaren probably had pace enough to win but Max does have his moments.

As a McLaren fan I am happy that he spun.
so, red bull was actually a good car in the race, lol.
as a mclaren, mercedes and ferrari (and even some redbull) fans rightfully say )))
Seeing his comments in the McLaren thread too I actually think it was a very big compliment to Max - I think he knew Max was probably going to hold Lando up for a while in a car that was struggling.

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Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:36
avantman wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:24
FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56
Honestly without the spin at safety car restart, Verstappen was in a good position. Lando would need to overtake him again and Piastri had 10 second penalty.

McLaren probably had pace enough to win but Max does have his moments.

As a McLaren fan I am happy that he spun.
so, red bull was actually a good car in the race, lol.
as a mclaren, mercedes and ferrari (and even some redbull) fans rightfully say )))
Seeing his comments in the McLaren thread too I actually think it was a very big compliment to Max - I think he knew Max was probably going to hold Lando up for a while in a car that was struggling.
I mean people should look at where Tsunoda finished the race and look up his pace even in dry specifically before making incredibly ludicrous comments about missed chances of fighting for the win.

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avantman wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:37
Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:36
avantman wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:24

so, red bull was actually a good car in the race, lol.
as a mclaren, mercedes and ferrari (and even some redbull) fans rightfully say )))
Seeing his comments in the McLaren thread too I actually think it was a very big compliment to Max - I think he knew Max was probably going to hold Lando up for a while in a car that was struggling.
I mean people should look at where Tsunoda finished the race and look up his pace even in dry specifically before making incredibly ludicrous comments about missed chances of fighting for the win.
Like I said though I think it was a compliment of Max that he can handle that under the pressure he was on - reading between the lines of what he has said -I think he knew the McLaren was the faster car today but Max was able to make a menace of himself and make it very hard for McLaren before that Probably harder then it should have been.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:31
My point is more that Verstappen did really well to extract the most of what he was given, it's unfortunate he lost the lead but he was still in a pretty good position to challenge for the win. It's tough to say would it be enough as McLaren had best pace at the end but he still maximized.
It was not unfortunate he lost the lead, because it had nothing to do with luck, fortune of lack thereof. He was simply too slow and nowhere near the pace of the Mclaren. He was not extracting most of what he was given, he was driving beyond what was in that car. As Brundle noted, he was drifting if he was in a rally car there. He was 18th in low speed corners even in dry in quali on new tires. And naturally during the race with all the fuel and management, particularly in the wet all the corners become much slower than they were in quali.
FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:31
About the car, I am always puzzled how they can go these low downforce setups and still manage to run a good race. Truly incredible.
You put a genius behind the wheel. Truly incredible driver.