2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

Final tally
5 Rookies XX....Didn't make it to the finish line.

Gasly's car is very fast in the slow corners. So he's hard to pass in the wet. That behavior is supported by the evidence that Hamilton was able to pass him, the Ferrari is better than Gasly in slow corners.

We can complain all we want about the strategies but ALonso wasn't really "inspiring" trying to push to get past Russell. He was more just sitting back and staying out of the fight waiting for both Russell and Hamilton to get past and wear Gasly's tires out. Then pounce but that never happened.

On the onboard on lap 37 or 38.. I heard "strat 11". Then a few turns later. "
we think "strat 11" is best... Alonso "I agree" .... We get to turn 15. "Ok ALonso, pit pit." There is no "STRAT 11". It just meant, I think we should pit this lap.

[Sedaxel]

Sauber has improved a lot, yeah. I said it also some weeks ago.

Alo himself stated it in an interview. He said Sauber could dominate the midfield.

But today, without this poor strategy, Alo could have finished up there. Great benefit for Stroll, great damage for Alo.

Goran and some other one saying nonsense things like Stroll is doing better since he's scored more points in 3, 2, 1...

LOL

[Mr Alcatraz]

Well played by 'troll I guess. Fred had a decent race. His race marked by bad team strategy.

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[RedNEO]

The consensus is clear. Alonso did well to salvage anything from a strategy that left him playing catch up while Lance takes advantage of being behind. Not a good look for Aston Martin that their strategy on one car leaves it behind the car behind on several occasions now.

[diffuser]

On the positive side we are now tied with the Racing bulls at 36 for 7th.

[Alo_Fan]

On the positive side we are now tied with the Racing bulls at 36 for 7th.

A little frustrating that Alonso is behind Stroll in the WDC again, not really down to merit again as he showed in qualifying

[diffuser]

The consensus is clear. Alonso did well to salvage anything from a strategy that left him playing catch up while Lance takes advantage of being behind. Not a good look for Aston Martin that their strategy on one car leaves it behind the car behind on several occasions now.

There is a HUGE element of luck in those decisions. When you're the first to pit in the wet, you have no data that you're basing that decision on. Alonso and AM F1 both chose to pit when they did and it turned out to be a lap or 2 too early.

I agree, they could have been on the podium had they made the calls right but that also means that 12 or 13 other cars could have been on the podium if they made their calls right and they didn't make the right call either.

You guys have to be realistic, races like this are a bit of a lottery. You run that same race 10 times I bet you end up with 10 different cars on that last step of the podium.

[max_speed]

On the positive side we are now tied with the Racing bulls at 36 for 7th.

A little frustrating that Alonso is behind Stroll in the WDC again, not really down to merit again as he showed in qualifying

At this stage he dsnt bother about being behind anyone anymore. All he wants a winning car but even if newey delivers a winning one strategist will loose championship

[Sedaxel]

This was a crazy race. Alo was hugely prejudiced by safety car, and noticeably prejudiced by strategy. But at the end, nothing but a crazy race... Difficult to extract conclusions about the pace, since lots of top cars had troubles. Hulk position is just a fantasy because of that.

However, I certainly see better performance than before. Upgrades, while small, are working IMO.

Let's wait for the next races to know it better.

[Alo_Fan]

The consensus is clear. Alonso did well to salvage anything from a strategy that left him playing catch up while Lance takes advantage of being behind. Not a good look for Aston Martin that their strategy on one car leaves it behind the car behind on several occasions now.

There is a HUGE element of luck in those decisions. When you're the first to pit in the wet, you have no data that you're basing that decision on. Alonso and AM F1 both chose to pit when they did and it turned out to be a lap or 2 too early.

I agree, they could have been on the podium had they made the calls right but that also means that 12 or 13 other cars could have been on the podium if they made their calls right and they didn't make the right call either.

You guys have to be realistic, races like this are a bit of a lottery. You run that same race 10 times I bet you end up with 10 different cars on that last step of the podium.

You'd imagine given the intel right at AMR HQ when it was raining hard already, they should have been more confident to double stack the cars on the same lap, given Alonso was quite far in front of Stroll anyway at that point, rather than pit Stroll one lap earlier

[Alo_Fan]

Judging by 2024 performance, these last 2 tracks were pretty tough for us last year too, Spa went much better for us, so hoping for a good result there

[diffuser]

On the positive side we are now tied with the Racing bulls at 36 for 7th.

A little frustrating that Alonso is behind Stroll in the WDC again, not really down to merit again as he showed in qualifying

At this stage he dsnt bother about being behind anyone anymore. All he wants a winning car but even if newey delivers a winning one strategist will loose championship

Look at it this way. Even at his advanced age, Alo was asked to drive for RBR.
There are also 2 to 3 teams out there that would still be happy to have AlO drive for them. Lance couldn't get a seat anywhere else. He has to buy the seat he has.

[Sedaxel]

Realistically, the car is just ready to fight for the midfield leadership. Today, a podium was possible, but just because several fast cars had troubles. Alo showed his mastery in last stint, overtaking cars in the same tyre conditions and slippery track, scoring a couple race fastest laps. Then the tyres died.

Now, that's way better than the car was before Imola. So at least upgrades are not downgrades. And that is good, mates. That's hope, in the lack of anything else.

[didikaos]

Alonso saying in Dazn how the stops were decided by the team and how he would love to pit when Stroll's strategists decide because they tend to be a lot better in decision making than his own strategical team. Cowell afterwards stated that they could have done better with Alonso's pit strategy.

[Sedaxel]

A little frustrating that Alonso is behind Stroll in the WDC again, not really down to merit again as he showed in qualifying

At this stage he dsnt bother about being behind anyone anymore. All he wants a winning car but even if newey delivers a winning one strategist will loose championship

Look at it this way. Even at his advanced age, Alo was asked to drive for RBR.
There are also 2 to 3 teams out there that would still be happy to have AlO drive for them. Lance couldn't get a seat anywhere else. He has to buy the seat he has.

Absolutely.