2025 McLaren F1 Team

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And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
I guess you were rooting for Oscar to win, because McLaren ended with a 1-2 still, no reason to celebrate, right?
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Ground Effect wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:46
Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
I guess you were rooting for Oscar to win, because McLaren ended with a 1-2 still, no reason not to celebrate, right?
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
Russell's was half the amount on psi. Russell's was with the safety car still running. Russell's wasn't in wet conditions.

Over than that, exactly the same.

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Ground Effect wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:46
Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
I guess you were rooting for Oscar to win, because McLaren ended with a 1-2 still, no reason to celebrate, right?
It is a reason to celebrate but decisions from stewards who have had no basic knowledge of the safety cars rules in the past that decide an outcome of a race always leave a sour taste. I as a person when I feel a driver has been wrongfully accused will always mention it.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:58
Ground Effect wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:46
Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
I guess you were rooting for Oscar to win, because McLaren ended with a 1-2 still, no reason to celebrate, right?
It is a reason to celebrate but decisions from stewards who have had no basic knowledge of the safety cars rules in the past that decide an outcome of a race always leave a sour taste.
He broke a rule, entirely different scenario to George/Max @ Canada, we very nearly ended up with a Mugello 2020 again because of it, he's lucky Verstappen had no pace in the conditions to keep a P2, could have easily been a P3

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More than double the points as the next team, and it's only half way through the season.

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The safety car infringement penalty was way too harsh. The only significant difference is that in one race, it ended with the same safety car, while in the other, the race continued.
Ultimately, the 10-second penalty robbed us of what could have been another classic battle between Norris and Piastri.

Anyway, a McLaren 1-2 is all that matters. Bonus, Max is slipping and sliding away

On a side note,... Maybe the regulations should be changed to state that the cars must go at the pace of the Safety car, and when the lights go out, restrict everyone to VSC speed (80 kph). Once they cross the start/finish line, they can resume race pace. The current rules invite shenanigans.
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FittingMechanics wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:26
megasyxx2 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:14
Move on.....Pia will bounce back at Spa in 2 weeks time
3 weeks.
oh my, the long wait....

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Oscar asking about the "swap back and race" because of 'unfair' penalty was a strange thing to say, wasn't it?
It's weird because I am sure if the roles were reversed, there would be unending stream of 'bottled the SC restart' and 'whined on radio' posts.
I have a hard time dealing with toxic antifans on all sides.

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Ben1980 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:46
Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:36
And that is why I believe there is bias. Russell escaped with it. Max does it all the time and escapes with it. I want to see consistency. Here we have another easy 1-2 and instead of celebrating we are sour because of their inconsistent stewarding.
Russell's was half the amount on psi. Russell's was with the safety car still running. Russell's wasn't in wet conditions.

Over than that, exactly the same.
Haha don’t waste your time mate, he doesn’t look at facts and just thinks everything and everyone is anti McLaren

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It was a good day overall for McLaren. Some of the comments I have seen around against Lando are just ridiculous. Guy just won his home race and people expect him not to celebrate it. So stupid. Its not like he himself did anything wrong either.

As for Oscar, it sucks because he had really strong pace. The incident in my opinion was a little 50/50. Maybe because of the conditions, I am inclined to lean with the stewards, but it was marginal at best. Don’t think Oscar did anything crazy and he would have been a deserved winner imo.
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Im a team fan, obviously, I sway Norris again, that's clear.

But if Lando does the same as Oscar, its a penalty. I dont think this is a Red Bull thing at all . I think I saw that in previous laps, Oscar went to 130kph appx. Then this time 60kph. In that weather, with the visibility it was just a daft move.

Penalty was fair. Same as Lando in Qatar.

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Ben1980 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 21:41
Im a team fan, obviously, I sway Norris again, that's clear.

But if Lando does the same as Oscar, its a penalty. I dont think this is a Red Bull thing at all . I think I saw that in previous laps, Oscar went to 130kph appx. Then this time 60kph. In that weather, with the visibility it was just a daft move.

Penalty was fair. Same as Lando in Qatar.
Lando deserved the penalty in Qatar but the magnitude was ridiculous. Possibly the same here. Wouldn't have impacted the final result much though I don't think

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The feel good factor the McLaren fanbase had was always going to sour once this championship scenario came up. By all means cheer on your favourite driver, but the petty digs and salty responses are getting pretty ridiculous. Anyone with a shred of impartiality could see Oscar made a huge mistake. I do tend to side with Lando personally because of his tenure and longevity with the team, but I was up cheering when Oscar overtook Max. Had my head in my hands after the safety car moment, knew instantly it was slam-dunk 10 second penalty. He'll learn from it, all drivers make mistakes, and he'll bounce back at Spa.

We'll never really know how the race would have panned out without the penalty. Oscar had the edge in wet conditions, Lando looked quicker during the crossover to dry. May have had ourselves another on-track battle at some point. But to suggest Lando didn't deserve the win is silly, and to criticise him for celebrating a win at his home grand prix for the first time is just pathetic. Cringing at some of these posts.