[MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2025 (Grand Prix Cars)

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LVDH
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Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2025 (Grand Prix Cars)

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Ft5fTL wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 16:52
Thanks to "Matteo body", lots of gains comes from the correction of the poorly aligned/designed rear wing profiles so, thanks for that.:D It's still my profiles, endplates etc. but it made me realize how badly the old one performs after trying yours.
Fantastic, being a poor version of MbS again, when I still raced, I once looked at JJR's profiles and realized how much performance I was missing out on.


k.ko100v wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 17:30
Hello, I just double checked my RW endplate geometry and from my perspective is legal. Some areas are on the volume border but as far as I remember there was an update of the scrutineering process which should define such cases as OK.
What are going to be the consequences? Will I have the chance to send updated RW Endplate, for this race, if I get the exact reason for this nonconformity?
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The light green in the lower left section of your wing endplate is the reference surface in question. It is quite a lot that can be seen. You might have missed it in your own checks as the rear wheel obscures it pretty much.

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LVDH wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 12:33
Ft5fTL wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 19:06
2025 MKII:
As the name and the renders suggest, around %90 of the car is brand new. I decided to go with a more conventional downwash/inwash style sidepod on this one. Apart from that; floor, rear wing, barge boards are brand new, front wing is heavily revised. This is also my first formula car that will use a rake angle if my memory is correct. According to my sims, i got around %30 more downforce and around %8-10 more drag. The only worry is about cooling, its around the limits, very little headroom for error.
As always, very cool renders. I think, you deserve a victory just because of them anyways. But you have progressed so much the last years, these numbers sound like they could achieve exactly that.



And, as I hopped to achieve, it is Monday and I have the scrutineering results for you:
  • AeroStar Racing: 2.4, 2.5, 11.3
  • DK Racing: 2.1, 12.2, 15.1
  • HermesMotorsport: 9.1
  • Kostov Racing: 11.3
Can i ask some clarification for the rules 2.1 and 12.2 that i broke? Because the car is the same as last time with exception of the ride height and rake (which is possibly that i screwed up given its the only thing i changed).

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Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2025 (Grand Prix Cars)

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k.ko100v wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 17:30
Hello, I just double checked my RW endplate geometry and from my perspective is legal. Some areas are on the volume border but as far as I remember there was an update of the scrutineering process which should define such cases as OK.
What are going to be the consequences? Will I have the chance to send updated RW Endplate, for this race, if I get the exact reason for this nonconformity?
https://mantiumchallenge.com/wp-content ... e_2025.jpg
The light green in the lower left section of your wing endplate is the reference surface in question. It is quite a lot that can be seen. You might have missed it in your own checks as the rear wheel obscures it pretty much.
I found the root cause. My reference surface is most probably older version.
Is it possible to send an updated file for this race?

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LVDH
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Dimitris wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 19:11
Can i ask some clarification for the rules 2.1 and 12.2 that i broke? Because the car is the same as last time with exception of the ride height and rake (which is possibly that i screwed up given its the only thing i changed).
It is always possible that I overlook something. Just because a car once passed scrutineering it does not guarantee that it is 100% legal.

Last time, you simply did not break rule 2.1. If you scroll down the rules a bit, I even included a screenshot to help understand this one.

With rule 12.2 it is quite clear, the red section should not be visible. I am not sure if it was like this last race.
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LVDH
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k.ko100v wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 19:15
I found the root cause. My reference surface is most probably older version.
Is it possible to send an updated file for this race?
Sorry, this is not possible, as it would through the organization completely out of whack. I think, this was never possible.

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HermesMotorsport
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I have a question about the scrutineering too. Did I break rule 9.1 : All bodywork must be fully contained within the supplied legality volumes. Or are there some issues with the rules 9.1.1, 9.1.2, 9.1.3 ? Because today I double checked for rule 9.1 and it seemed like the part was in the legality volumes.

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LVDH
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HermesMotorsport wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 20:26
I have a question about the scrutineering too. Did I break rule 9.1 : All bodywork must be fully contained within the supplied legality volumes. Or are there some issues with the rules 9.1.1, 9.1.2, 9.1.3 ? Because today I double checked for rule 9.1 and it seemed like the part was in the legality volumes.
There is a lot of floor coming out of the rear of the pink volume:
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The good thing with this race, is that the three of you made very clear and easy to spot violations. I think, there is not much to discuss.

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G-raph
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I completely forgot that the race was this weekend, so I missed the deadline despite having a new car sort of ready to go. #-o

Will you re-run my previous entry with the new settings or will that result in a DNS?

In any case, good luck everyone!

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yinlad
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G-raph wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 00:30
I completely forgot that the race was this weekend, so I missed the deadline despite having a new car sort of ready to go. #-o

Will you re-run my previous entry with the new settings or will that result in a DNS?

In any case, good luck everyone!
Ouch that sucks! I'm almost certain the previous car will be re-run if there was no submission
MVRC - Panthera

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LVDH
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G-raph wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 00:30
I completely forgot that the race was this weekend, so I missed the deadline despite having a new car sort of ready to go. #-o

Will you re-run my previous entry with the new settings or will that result in a DNS?
This season truelly is a season of screw-ups. And yes, you are now simply running an older entry.


I have some cool renders for you:
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https://mantiumchallenge.com/cars-mvrc- ... tone-2025/

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The Rusted One
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LVDH wrote:
10 Jul 2025, 19:57

This season truelly is a season of screw-ups. And yes, you are now simply running an older entry.


I have some cool renders for you:
https://mantiumchallenge.com/wp-content ... e_2025.gif
https://mantiumchallenge.com/cars-mvrc- ... tone-2025/
Wait… where is the other half of my RW #-o #-o
Indeed a season of screwups
The one time I didn’t violate the rules I decided to forget to submit part of my RW. Anyway that wing is perfect for Monza so I don’t have to change the wing for that. On to Monza…
Rusted GP

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Koldskaal
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ROUND 3 - THE BRITISH GRAND PRIX

MVRC - Koldskaal, name: Christian