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[OverheatedTurbo]

I can't believe f1technical is having a detailed discussion about people's private life, tracking their pvt planes, etc.
What have we become ? paparazzi ?
How desperate are we for 'clues' so that we are the ones 'breaking the news first' ? Is this a technical forum or an evening tabloid ?

Yeah, it is all so weird. I like it when we are discussing on why the W16 is booty cheeks instead of talking about what Max ate for breakfast this morning.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

I can't believe f1technical is having a detailed discussion about people's private life, tracking their pvt planes, etc.
What have we become ? paparazzi ?
How desperate are we for 'clues' so that we are the ones 'breaking the news first' ? Is this a technical forum or an evening tabloid ?

Yeah, it is all so weird. I like it when we are discussing on why the W16 is booty cheeks instead of talking about what Max ate for breakfast this morning.

Yes, but what did Max's pilot's taxi driver eat for breakfast and what clues does that give us about the current state of contract negotiations for Red Bull's second driver's nanny?

[SB15]

I can't believe f1technical is having a detailed discussion about people's private life, tracking their pvt planes, etc.
What have we become ? paparazzi ?
How desperate are we for 'clues' so that we are the ones 'breaking the news first' ? Is this a technical forum or an evening tabloid ?

Yeah, it is all so weird. I like it when we are discussing on why the W16 is booty cheeks instead of talking about what Max ate for breakfast this morning.

Yes, but what did Max's pilot's taxi driver eat for breakfast and what clues does that give us about the current state of contract negotiations for Red Bull's second driver's nanny?

Honestly you people need to do the same and take a break off of F1! Find something else to do.

[AR3-GP]

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[Rootsap]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

[zibby43]

Whether Piquet is accurate is another story but that translation is 100% accurate and has been verified.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Yeah, it is all so weird. I like it when we are discussing on why the W16 is booty cheeks instead of talking about what Max ate for breakfast this morning.

Yes, but what did Max's pilot's taxi driver eat for breakfast and what clues does that give us about the current state of contract negotiations for Red Bull's second driver's nanny?

Honestly you people need to do the same and take a break off of F1! Find something else to do.

You didn't get that I was being intentionally ridiculous? Lol

[Matt2725]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Thing is, they've been talking for years.

It was only 2021 and 2022 where things went cold really. Beyond that, Vermeulen and Jos Verstappen were both seen talking to Wolff at Bahrain in 2023 around the same time the Horner WhatsApp leak came about. I still think it's much ado about nothing ultimately.

[FittingMechanics]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Really sounds like Piquet Jr. slipped and revealed that the deal is already on. Then backtracked to say "everyone knows they are talking".

I maintain my view that they agreed verbally on the move, but probably can't sign anything because Verstappen hasn't activated his exit clause yet.

[basti313]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Really sounds like Piquet Jr. slipped and revealed that the deal is already on. Then backtracked to say "everyone knows they are talking".

I maintain my view that they agreed verbally on the move, but probably can't sign anything because Verstappen hasn't activated his exit clause yet.

Well, they could already sign. The contract would just be based on the exit clause and activate if pulled until a certain date. So this is possible to make an agreement before and would be wise for both sides. (see Piastri)

Piquet is the only one talking who is anywhere close. Everyone else is silent, also no commitments. I bet there is a contract in place with a strict NDA...

[WardenOfTheNorth]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Really sounds like Piquet Jr. slipped and revealed that the deal is already on. Then backtracked to say "everyone knows they are talking".

I maintain my view that they agreed verbally on the move, but probably can't sign anything because Verstappen hasn't activated his exit clause yet.

Maybe or maybe his comments can be taken at face value.

[Watto]

https://www.silverarrows.net/news/nelso ... -mercedes/

I don't know how reliable this is, I just hope it's a big nothing burger

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Really sounds like Piquet Jr. slipped and revealed that the deal is already on. Then backtracked to say "everyone knows they are talking".

I maintain my view that they agreed verbally on the move, but probably can't sign anything because Verstappen hasn't activated his exit clause yet.

I don't tend to think a decision had been made by Max either way, but think Mercedes next year is a real possibility the comments via Erik van Haren even after Horner was removed was a decision would be made in the coming races, no doubt it plays into when his trigger is activated. But the comments were that no decision had been made, not even a Max has a contract is happy etc though was an interesting bit of info knowing his connection to the Verstappen's . I wouldn't be surprised if he remains at RBR I wonder how much the next few updates play into his mind before the break, do they show signs there Red Bull engineers can solve their problems - not fro this year but next -

[MB_Racer]

Sky Italia, the board of Daimler agrees, lots of news sites in the Netherlands and now Piquet Sr…

There shouldn’t be smoke without a fire but let’s see…

[FittingMechanics]

Well, they could already sign. The contract would just be based on the exit clause and activate if pulled until a certain date. So this is possible to make an agreement before and would be wise for both sides. (see Piastri)

Piquet is the only one talking who is anywhere close. Everyone else is silent, also no commitments. I bet there is a contract in place with a strict NDA...

Depends on the contract. It is possible (and sounds like it here) that he is not allowed to negotiate/sign contracts with other teams while his contract is not "exit triggered". At least that is how I read it, they are all very eager to mention that no official yes has been made. This is the way in football, you can't negotiate with other teams (without approval of your team) until you are 6 months away from contract ending.

But this also doesn't mean they can't have an unofficial understanding. I think this is the situation right now, Toto and Max agreed on a deal in principle and we are seeing smoke from it. The moment Max is able to trigger his exit clause it will all quickly fall into place and most of these journalists will come out saying they knew the deal was in the works (which they probably do) but that they couldn't say anything official.

The only thing it confirms is that they're talking, which we already know.

Really sounds like Piquet Jr. slipped and revealed that the deal is already on. Then backtracked to say "everyone knows they are talking".

I maintain my view that they agreed verbally on the move, but probably can't sign anything because Verstappen hasn't activated his exit clause yet.

Maybe or maybe his comments can be taken at face value.

I'm curious, you look like a Max fan. Are you just very against move to Mercedes or is there some other reason?