2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
13 Jul 2025, 19:30
deadhead wrote:
13 Jul 2025, 19:24
Why don't they look promising for 2026? There is zero indication...

Sure, the technical group hasn't produced a championship capable car in decades, but that has to end at some point
Why? It’s about competence, not luck. Thinking that Ferrari can make a better car than McLaren right now is crazy.
Yeah, McLaren guys are god's that live among us. It took them only 12 years to build a championship winning car.

Joking aside, no one knows what will happen in 26 and this is a fact.

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deadhead wrote:
13 Jul 2025, 19:24
Why don't they look promising for 2026? There is zero indication...

Sure, the technical group hasn't produced a championship capable car in decades, but that has to end at some point
I don't think that's true honestly.

-2010 was a decent car on a really competitive grid and took the WDC fight to the last race with Alonso. With a better strategy in Abu Dhabi, he would have won it.
-2012 started really really badly, but the grid was so close together the first half, Alonso could work his magic. Car was quite good race-pace wise later on and it was good on the tires as well. Another season which would have been a title if not for a few unlucky events throughout the season for Alonso.
-2017 was a great car held back by a weak power unit (compared to the monster PU that Mercedes had the first couple of years in the hybrid era).
-2018 car was definitely title-capable, but it required perfection in execution for that season, which did not happen. Some miss-steps with development later on the season certainly did not help too, but Vettel also left so many points on the table, either through bad luck or through his own fault.
-2022 car started out as, arguably, the best car that year, but it was severely handicapped mid-season. Some of the ideas that Ferrari's technical team came up with were the inspiration for the most competitive concepts developed later on for this regulation era.
And finally, 2024 car almost won a WCC. It's "comical" in a way that McLaren, out of nowhere, develops a beast of a car taking it away from them, which carries onto 2025 as well.

Remove McLaren out of the picture, which were "irrelevant" for an entire decade until suddenly their investments kicked in, Ferrari would have been a WCC last year, and likely a double-title team this season even with the rough start.

There are plenty of reasons why Ferrari has gone title-less for a long time right now, but technically, Ferrari is actually the only team that has managed at least one title-fighting car concept every different era we have had since their last title. There's no reason to believe they won't manage the same going into the next reg cycle.
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Emag wrote:
13 Jul 2025, 21:50
There are plenty of reasons why Ferrari has gone title-less for a long time right now, but technically, Ferrari is actually the only team that has managed at least one title-fighting car concept every different era we have had since their last title. There's no reason to believe they won't manage the same going into the next reg cycle.
Absolutely. Ferrari has finished out of the top 3 in WCC only a handful of times in the last 3 decades (2020, 2014 and 2009 since 2000) and have generally been able to finish on the podium at least once each season, again except for a handful of seasons, over the last 4-5 decades.

No team has been this competitive for such a long time.

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I do think it is relevant for the first part of those decades, until halfway the last, more or less, Ferrari got more money from FIA than any other team and very often had one of the, if not outright the largest budget. But yes, it has been easy to fault Ferrari for not winning, partly due to that financial situation, but in the end for a lot of that time too, they were usually blamed for not being podium and win contenders at all races and thus not being the favorite or 2nd favorite team every season. They did however manage to accrue a history of a bit often not using their potential during the races certainly since the Schumacher dream team started to leave.

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"an interesting surprise in the Mugello test" Duchessa reports

Anyone know what this is all about?

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woocasz wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 15:24
"an interesting surprise in the Mugello test" Duchessa reports

Anyone know what this is all about?
we're cooked

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woocasz wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 15:24
"an interesting surprise in the Mugello test" Duchessa reports

Anyone know what this is all about?
Is the word interesting being used positively or negatively here I wonder... :lol: :lol:

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 16:46
woocasz wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 15:24
"an interesting surprise in the Mugello test" Duchessa reports

Anyone know what this is all about?
Is the word interesting being used positively or negatively here I wonder... :lol: :lol:
probably just a clickbait title...

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they only did 15km demo run, probably with older spec, then tomorrow they will put on newer upgrade and see..

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Autoracer doesnt do clickbait, theyre saying "there’s a big, important, but clever surprise." so its positive, today was just the TPC with Zhou in the SF23 and tomorrow is the stress test for the new suspension with lewis and charles in the SF25

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Luscion wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 17:13
Autoracer doesnt do clickbait, theyre saying "there’s a big, important, but clever surprise." so its positive, today was just the TPC with Zhou in the SF23 and tomorrow is the stress test for the new suspension with lewis and charles in the SF25
how do you know?
article is for paid subscribers.

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woocasz wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 17:42
Luscion wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 17:13
Autoracer doesnt do clickbait, theyre saying "there’s a big, important, but clever surprise." so its positive, today was just the TPC with Zhou in the SF23 and tomorrow is the stress test for the new suspension with lewis and charles in the SF25
how do you know?
article is for paid subscribers.
all this info is from what all the guys from autoracer tweeted themselves

the tweet about the surprise
https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/1945418682579943607

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I would like to hear some opinions regarding the performance of Hamilton. Is it me or is he much better in the last 5 races compared to what he was at the start?

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 20:06
I would like to hear some opinions regarding the performance of Hamilton. Is it me or is he much better in the last 5 races compared to what he was at the start?

I think he stopped trying to find a way to make the car work better, and is now just dealing with it. He also seems to have shifted his energy to getting next years car right, hence why we see stuff like this.

https://scuderiafans.com/the-ferrari-in ... -the-team/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-f ... /10742236/
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dans79 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 20:43
Darth-Piekus wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 20:06
I would like to hear some opinions regarding the performance of Hamilton. Is it me or is he much better in the last 5 races compared to what he was at the start?

I think he stopped trying to find a way to make the car work better, and is now just dealing with it. He also seems to have shifted his energy to getting next years car right, hence why we see stuff like this.

https://scuderiafans.com/the-ferrari-in ... -the-team/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-f ... /10742236/
Agreed, buts let's not forget he was doing mostly well in Australia and win the sprint in China when they were able run the car low. Hamilton is comparing better to Leclerc then he was to Russell last year. To the top drivers they don't care about finishing 2nd or 6th, it is all losing. They want to win, and Hamilton was clearly trying wildly different set ups trying to discover something that would work for a win, he couldn't, so now they just take the points. With the aero testing restrictions, being in 4th place for wcc would be better than 2nd right now for next year's car.