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30 Jul 2025, 12:23
F1 | ASTON MARTIN WILL BE DECIDING SOON IF THE NEW MERCEDES SUSPENSION WILL BE ADOPTED
At Silverstone, evaluations began on whether to use the new rear suspension components that Mercedes introduced in the spring.

Mercedes debuted a new rear suspension at Imola at the end of May. It took a few weeks for it to work. But then it paid off and helped the W16s, which scored a double podium with a win in Canada and generally improved tyre management. Now Aston Martin is seriously considering whether to adopt them for the final part of the 2025 season.

The AMR25s were not born under the best star. The single-seaters that share several components with the single-seaters driven by George Russell and Andrea Kimi Antonelli, however, are in search of improvement, although by now almost the entire Aston Martin Racing team is busy preparing the 2026 single-seaters.

The synergy with Mercedes - which will come to an end at the very end of this season with the switch of power units from Brixworth to Honda - gives the British team the opportunity to take advantage of the suspension that Mercedes has been using with regularity since Montreal.

The evaluations are ongoing. This was stated by Andy Cowell, team principal of Aston Martin. This, however, should not be a forced choice. The team will have to use the last working weeks before the summer break to make the necessary evaluations and make a decision.

"We are considering a switch to the new Mercedes rear suspension. We are researching what is possible with the components they provide and what we want to do,' Cowell admitted.

"It's also a question of assessing how much effort we want to put into the changes this year, rather than using what we already have. It is usually easier to fine-tune and optimise what you know than to make changes."

Changing the suspension during the course of the season - we have seen this with Mercedes and, more recently, with Ferrari - means having to make changes to the aerodynamics of the single-seaters as well as the vehicle dynamics themselves. In short, certainly not an uninvasive modification. That is why at Silverstone they will still take some time to work out whether and how to make this change.

"Changing the suspension during the season would change the vehicle dynamics and aerodynamics. The work on the dynamics, the simulation, the simulator with driver, the aerodynamics."

"Then dust off the 2025 wind tunnel model to get measurements, then do the hardware supply test measurements. At that point we'll have to figure out if everything will add up and if the single-seater will be faster. In this regard, we will understand more about what to do after the summer break."

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i think a lot will depend on how the new upgrades work over the next couple of races. but i dont have a lot of faith that they can make it worth while to swap settups given the amount of time it takes them to "dial in" any upgrade they bring over the last couple of seasons.if they are at the back of the grid in hungary without it, they have nothing to lose really

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https://www.planetf1.com/news/aston-mar ... -out-of-f1



Buyer found for Aston Martin Lagonda’s F1 shares

The British car marque has announced that it expects to release its minority stake in the F1 team in the third quarter of this year in a £110 million transaction.


That is in conjunction with further investment from Yew Tree Investments, the Lawrence Stroll-led consortium, which is poised to up its involvement in the road car business from 27.67 per cent to 33 per cent.“

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well mercedes are returning back to old suspension for this weekend. i mean i guess aston have nothing to lose if they adopt the newer rear suspension. they can just revert

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They have to buy it first of all, they could use the money instead for the 2026 project. More important, you have to test it in the windtunnel and adopt the sim and other tools. That needs time, wind tunnel and CFD hours that can also be used for the 2026 project.

Cowell said that currently noone works on developments for the 2025 car, so ressources need to be switched back to the 2025 project. Don't know it's worth it.

But I am still waiting for their own rear suspension the "insiders" on twitter advertised the last months... :lol:

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31 Jul 2025, 16:32
They have to buy it first of all, they could use the money instead for the 2026 project. More important, you have to test it in the windtunnel and adopt the sim and other tools. That needs time, wind tunnel and CFD hours that can also be used for the 2026 project.

Cowell said that currently noone works on developments for the 2025 car, so ressources need to be switched back to the 2025 project. Don't know it's worth it.
You mean for the aero change requirements?
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31 Jul 2025, 16:32
But I am still waiting for their own rear suspension the "insiders" on twitter advertised the last months... :lol:
Did someone say they were gonna have our own rear suspensions on this years car? I thought I heard test front suspension parts??

We did see Newey taking notes on McLaren's rear suspension.
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31 Jul 2025, 16:32
They have to buy it first of all, they could use the money instead for the 2026 project. More important, you have to test it in the windtunnel and adopt the sim and other tools. That needs time, wind tunnel and CFD hours that can also be used for the 2026 project.

Cowell said that currently noone works on developments for the 2025 car, so ressources need to be switched back to the 2025 project. Don't know it's worth it.

But I am still waiting for their own rear suspension the "insiders" on twitter advertised the last months... :lol:
didnt cowell say that they would test some suspension parts for next year later in the year? or were these "insiders" claimning they were going to build something for this season? sounds like a long shot at best.

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Cowell only said that they will test some experimental parts for 2026 later in the year, he said nothing about suspension parts or that they would race with it. That was a phantasy product of some guys. Especially because the suspension can’t be the same next year. There’s barely a part from the AMR25, which can be used in the AMR26…

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Cowell only said that they will test some experimental parts for 2026 later in the year, he said nothing about suspension parts or that they would race with it. That was a phantasy product of some guys. Especially because the suspension can’t be the same next year. There’s barely a part from the AMR25, which can be used in the AMR26…
I'm 100% certain Suspension parts was mentioned. I "PRESUMED" he meant internal parts(torsion spring, dampers,etc) cause obviously all the external stuff is gonna be different.

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See this is why we shouldn't listen to the rumor mill...



He's pretty frank about where he's gonna be next year.

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31 Jul 2025, 22:26
-wkst- wrote:
31 Jul 2025, 21:09
Cowell only said that they will test some experimental parts for 2026 later in the year, he said nothing about suspension parts or that they would race with it. That was a phantasy product of some guys. Especially because the suspension can’t be the same next year. There’s barely a part from the AMR25, which can be used in the AMR26…
I'm 100% certain Suspension parts was mentioned. I "PRESUMED" he meant internal parts(torsion spring, dampers,etc) cause obviously all the external stuff is gonna be different.
I have to correct myself, Cowell said that they will try to race parts that will be similar across the 25er and 26er car. But no specific mention what parts he means, so it could be anything. It's also the question how many parts can be used in both cars, I guess some internal parts (as you mentioned) are not far from the truth. But for sure not a new rear or front suspension...
"In addition, we're developing any components that are similar across the '26 and '25 cars now so we can take them to circuits this season and do full race distances with them. If we avoid issues, these races will provide the validation testing we need to say these components are ready to go into the '26 car. There are many components we will go racing with in the second half of the season which could be on next year's car."
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Allison admitted this week that the new Mercedes rear suspension made the car more difficult and unprecitable under braking and turn-in at high speed, so they go back to the old configuration. Don't believe that AMR want to bind ressources for new problems this year...

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Carlos miquel saying old floor and old wing va new floor and new wing for fp1 for definitive data.

So we’re still doing that….

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Alonso will skip FP1, and it sounds like his participation for the rest of the weekend isn't sure either


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https://x.com/AstonMartinF1/status/1951281848371351798

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Fernando will be back in the AMR25 for FP2 this afternoon.

He chose to sit out the opening practice session to limit his time in the car as he manages a muscular injury in his back. Having undergone further treatment this morning and medically cleared by the FIA, Fernando will be back in the AMR25 alongside Lance.

Felipe Drugovich delivered a busy FP1 programme with Lance earlier today, collecting important data as the team continues to evaluate recent car updates."

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Really Good lap from lance

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P3 and 5 so far, looks far better than last weekend.