2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Autobahn303]

Leclerc:

In the car, I didn’t have all the information; now I have them. We had a chassis problem from lap 40 onwards. From that moment on, I was just a passenger; there was nothing to do. There was a lot of frustration in the car—I thought it was coming from another decision that had been made.

The disappointment and frustration remain because we have a real chance to win this year, and today was very probably that chance. Even though we had a bit more degradation than the McLaren cars, the pace was there in the first stint, in the second stint, and up until around lap 40. I’m really disappointed, but these are racing days. Now that I understand a bit more about what happened behind the scenes, these are things you simply cannot predict.

Damn, I'm so curious.

I hope more information will surface soon.

[GrizzleBoy]

Charles will never sell Ferrari out. He has Ferrari in his veins and in his heart. If there is a narrative, he will spin it for the team. Especially if someone whispers in his ear that its the plank.

[yooogurt]

It's pretty common this season for their pace to fall off in the last stint.

It's just today's loss was very extreme (2 seconds) usually it's only a few tenths.

In Australia they figured it out on friday, but not at this grand prix? How does that work? Something went wrong, and team miss it and Charles had something to do with it too for sure.Why did he only realize this in the race? On Saturday everyone drives medium since friday which has 12-14 laps from the start.

[Waz]

Is this a possible reason they're under fueling quite aggressively too? Save on plank wear?

Wasn't the new suspension supposed to fix that issue quite specifically?

[catent]

Charles will never sell Ferrari out. He has Ferrari in his veins and in his heart. If there is a narrative, he will spin it for the team. Especially if someone whispers in his ear that its the plank.

That's why Leclerc was absolutely lambasting the team via radio messages that he knows will be publicly aired, right, because he would never throw the team under the bus, and will lie to protect them? And therefore the chassis issue - which Leclerc has confirmed - must be a lie to cover for a plank issue?

Laughable.

[McLarenHonda]

Anyone else think Lewis won’t make it into 2026?

[woocasz]

He is protecting the team. 100%
2 seconds slower with 40Kg of fuel less. Only with Ferrari.
Ferrari spent half a year developing a new suspension, only to find out that it doesn't work...
They are so bad. it is painful to watch.

[yooogurt]

Ferrari spent half a year developing a new suspension, only to find out that it doesn't work...
They are so bad. it is painful to watch.

Why did the suspension work in the Spa then?

[Chuckjr]

Anyone else think Lewis won’t make it into 2026?

In my opinion…

Not with the mindset he has been revealing for the weekend. It’s a bad example, and it embarrasses Ferrari and the team to have someone so thin skinned and self-degrading as a driver. Imagine an NFL quarterback talking like this. Smh.

He thought he was better than he was when he signed (tho some here saw it), and earlier someone mentioned his recent white papers he sent to Ferrari only serves to render his inflated image of himself which is a by product of having fastest car privileges for most of his career. Such drivers begin to think it’s them, when it’s obviously not. He really thinks he is that good. Smh. Furthermore, he put himself into this position by displacing CS, which was shameful. He deserves whatever befalls him.

[Fakepivot]

well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.

[LM10]

He is protecting the team. 100%
2 seconds slower with 40Kg of fuel less. Only with Ferrari.
Ferrari spent half a year developing a new suspension, only to find out that it doesn't work...
They are so bad. it is painful to watch.

You mean like Mercedes who went back to their previous suspension and found pace again?

Do you really think that Ferrari needed a filming day, a whole weekend at Spa, three practice sessions at the Hungaroring and half a race distance to suddenly find out that their suspension doesn’t work?

[IntrinsicVoid]

People who tend to go over things like that and giving chance after chance come up like this. You can soak a sponge till it starts leaking, that’s Leclerc.

[AR3-GP]

well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.

I think that all of the drivers are emotional. This is not the problem at Ferrari. The problem is the SF25 and Fred has been selling fairy tales about it's potential since day 1. This season would have been like 2020 or 2021 if they ran at an appropriate ride height to stop the plank wear. Fred would not have been renewed. Now you understand why he spent all year blaming the drivers and pointing to this fictitious "potential" which only appears when the car is running too low. He would certainly have been fired if the real potential of the SF25 was exposed..

[SB15]

well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.

I think that all of the drivers are emotional. This is not the problem at Ferrari. The problem is the SF25 and Fred has been selling fairy tales about it's potential since day 1. This season would have been like 2020 or 2021 if they ran at an appropriate ride height to stop the plank wear. Fred would not have been renewed. Now you understand why he spent all year blaming the drivers and pointing to this fictitious "potential" which only appears when the car is running too low.

So the car's main problem is because of the limitations going double Pull-rod, since the pull-rod on the front allows for better airflow while also bringing the car closer to the ground at high speed, if you have too much downforce then you run into an issue with plank wear because the car would look it's on rails but is actually scraping the plank because there's not enough "stalling" with the Pull-rod in the rear. The reason why many teams switched to the Push-rod for the rear. (Mercedes did a hybrid for the rear suspension, where their push-rod lowers the car like a Pull-rod while stalling at a certain height, Merc could've been really quick if they switched to pull-rod on the front but they may carry over the current concept for next year)

If other teams went as low as Ferrari does, Ferrari would be completely uncompetitive on pure pace vs Mclaren, Mercedes, & Redbull.

[sucof]

well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.

I think that all of the drivers are emotional. This is not the problem at Ferrari. The problem is the SF25 and Fred has been selling fairy tales about it's potential since day 1. This season would have been like 2020 or 2021 if they ran at an appropriate ride height to stop the plank wear. Fred would not have been renewed. Now you understand why he spent all year blaming the drivers and pointing to this fictitious "potential" which only appears when the car is running too low.

So the car's main problem is because of the limitations going double Pull-rod, since the pull-rod on the front allows for better airflow while also bringing the car closer to the ground at high speed, if you have too much downforce then you run into an issue with plank wear because the car would look it's on rails but is actually scraping the plank because there's not enough "stalling" with the Pull-rod in the rear. The reason why many teams switched to the Push-rod for the rear. (Mercedes did a hybrid for the rear suspension, where their push-rod lowers the car like a Pull-rod while stalling at a certain height, Merc could've been really quick if they switched to pull-rod on the front but they may carry over the current concept for next year)

If other teams went as low as Ferrari does, Ferrari would be completely uncompetitive on pure pace vs Mclaren, Mercedes, & Redbull.

If you would have the real knowledge of an engineer, you would never write all these...
You suggest, that all these simple things and knowledge eludes the engineers of the entire Mercedes and Ferrari F1 team? LOL
Also this pull rod vs push rod nonsense is so laughable... this is like the loch ness monster which still exists in the minds of such "believers"... people start point at them whatever happens, like they are the great differentiators... Please stop this nonsense.