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Yeah... Not seeing anything positive from this weekend is a little weird.

It's been the best result of the season, and it's been on merit. No strange circumstances, no favourites out of the race, nothing. He's been fast. And who knows how would it go if he went for a 2 stopper without the need of saving tyres. He proved he could be really fast (almost on par to the leaders, despite of needing to be conservative because of the strategy).

To sum up, I certainly see a lot of positive signs in this weekend.

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A lot of tire saving here was due to the tires falling off the cliff in Canada and a few races before trying to stick with the faster cars so this time around he gradually (and very conservatively) brought the pace in. I think what he didn't expect was the car to keep the tires alive so when he upped the pace the car kept up with it and kept going faster. Same for the Hard tires. Alonso experimented again and once the tires bedded in he was unstoppable.

I think more than the race results this is what made Alonso happy and excited cause the car is now working well. If the car is fast in Sector 3 in Hungary, It will be fast everywhere because that sector decides how well the car keeps it's tires and can corner well. This is why no own apart from Norris could overtake Alonso cause they couldn't keep up.

They still need to figure stuff out cause although tire saving the first few laps was still very bad but i think there are now just one step aways from solid results at every GP.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Im probably wrong in thinking this but sometimes watching Alonso in this new Pirelli era, I feel like he is too conservative with tyres in certain stints.

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diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.

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peewon wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 04:45
Im probably wrong in thinking this but sometimes watching Alonso in this new Pirelli era, I feel like he is too conservative with tyres in certain stints.
i think he could see that russell was on a different level than him when he passed him in the first stint. he could tell that there was no use in trying to keep that pace. and chances were more likely that hed burn out his tires than to keep up, and something happens where he could get that place back. i feel the same way every time he backs the field up like that and you know he has more pace than hes showing. but i also remember times when the tires have gone out and hes a sitting duck waiting for everyone to pass him, so i dont complain too much anymore.

we were just inches away from a podium if the mclarens woulve taken themselves out too haha

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peewon wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 04:45
Im probably wrong in thinking this but sometimes watching Alonso in this new Pirelli era, I feel like he is too conservative with tyres in certain stints.
You are not wrong, i not at once seen ASTON to drive on the limit or at least try to be fast as front runners. They always set a realistic level and try to fight for p6-p10. Is a very bad habit. The target always should be the P1 even if there are no chance for it. Many times saved tyres and then came the safety car but he was already 6 position behind. I also felt in Hungary that in the last stint he could start to push much earlier because he was fast till the end ,so basically was much more in the tyres,or try to go with Russell at least.

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-wkst- wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 08:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.
This year is a write off anyways, no one should be improving their cars till the end of the season. A P5 is a very unexpected result given we were the worst car in Spa, maybe we can have a fun weekend at Zandvoort/Singapore/São Paulo (a P5 in WCC should be possible)

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-wkst- wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 08:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.
It doesn't really matter, more importantly, will they have the pace in future races or will they fall back to SPA pace.

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diffuser wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 14:42
-wkst- wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 08:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.
It doesn't really matter, more importantly, will they have the pace in future races or will they fall back to SPA pace.
I'd guess our car suits Zandvoort/Singapore/São Paulo and we struggle at Monza/Austin/Mexico

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-wkst- wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 08:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.
Well duh, expectations are low. That’s no secret. But I don’t get why people shouldn’t be happy with P5 and 7, especially in a car that was nowhere one race ago. If we fought for wins I would care for the minute, but in those circumstances and keeping the strategy in mind, couldn’t care less about it. Points are what counts, and point-wise it was the beste weekend in a long time.

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MichaelxScarn wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 19:03
-wkst- wrote:
05 Aug 2025, 08:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 17:52
The rest of the field, though, they finished ahead of them cause AMR25 was faster.
That's just unknown. I guess in some other threads they discuss the "stuck behind the ALO train, could have been a lot faster, impossible to overtake, dirty air,..." stuff.

AMR played their cards perfectly and the track played into their hands with the layout.

Overall I just can't understand why people here, being 1 minute behind the leading car, being happy with a result (despite a P5). That can't be the standard of AMR and I can only repeat myself: it just shows how low the expectations are.
Well duh, expectations are low. That’s no secret. But I don’t get why people shouldn’t be happy with P5 and 7, especially in a car that was nowhere one race ago. If we fought for wins I would care for the minute, but in those circumstances and keeping the strategy in mind, couldn’t care less about it. Points are what counts, and point-wise it was the beste weekend in a long time.
With the exception of a small minority, people here were happy with the result, not the performance of the car.