Flexiwings 2025

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Sergej wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 22:12
tell me again how the TD will nerf McLaren :roll:
I think the RACE had an article published early January that was Mclaren was one of those few teams that approached FIA about this, could it be that they were preparing for this all along?
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bauc wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 09:26
Sergej wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 22:12
tell me again how the TD will nerf McLaren :roll:
I think the RACE had an article published early January that was Mclaren was one of those few teams that approached FIA about this, could it be that they were preparing for this all along?
Stands to reason that the team that had mastered flexing already was best able to adapt to the tighter regs.
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
08 Jul 2025, 18:24
bauc wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 09:26
Sergej wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 22:12
tell me again how the TD will nerf McLaren :roll:
I think the RACE had an article published early January that was Mclaren was one of those few teams that approached FIA about this, could it be that they were preparing for this all along?
Stands to reason that the team that had mastered flexing already was best able to adapt to the tighter regs.
I dont think so.

If they gained the most, they'd lose the most. That stands to reason.
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Quantum wrote:
08 Jul 2025, 22:50
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
08 Jul 2025, 18:24
bauc wrote:
07 Jul 2025, 09:26


I think the RACE had an article published early January that was Mclaren was one of those few teams that approached FIA about this, could it be that they were preparing for this all along?
Stands to reason that the team that had mastered flexing already was best able to adapt to the tighter regs.
I dont think so.

If they gained the most, they'd lose the most. That stands to reason.
Or they'd be best able to adapt to them. If a team has struggled to understand flexible wings already, then they're not going to do as good a job adapting to new rules.

A team which has the best understanding, is best places to understand how to adapt to the new rules.
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
10 Jul 2025, 00:23
Quantum wrote:
08 Jul 2025, 22:50
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
08 Jul 2025, 18:24


Stands to reason that the team that had mastered flexing already was best able to adapt to the tighter regs.
I dont think so.

If they gained the most, they'd lose the most. That stands to reason.
Or they'd be best able to adapt to them. If a team has struggled to understand flexible wings already, then they're not going to do as good a job adapting to new rules.

A team which has the best understanding, is best places to understand how to adapt to the new rules.
Red Bull back when they ran flexi wings back in the day knew how to get around any new test they had blown diffusers to ran through a few modifications, the hot and cold blown diffuser etc.

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Last four races - four 1-2s for McLaren.

This rule change is the biggest flop of the season. So many hopes for so many.

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When the rule change was delayed for two half seasons with a complete off season in between, for absolutely ridiculous sounding reasoning from the FIA, you knew they were only bringing it in only when they were sure it would have minimal impact. They even gave themselves an out by not committing to the change date till absolutely necessary. It was a farce from the get go.

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Confirmation by Mercedes that the bendy wings help them, and the telling us how it works. They were also affected by the stricter rules.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mercedes- ... ew-shovlin

It seem the Mercedes bendy front wing helped turning in slow speed corners without compromising stability at high speed. You could deduce from this that the front wing was steeper at low speeds - impinging to add more front down-force, and bent back to a shallower angle at high speeds to reduce font down-force and have a more stable rear. You can deduce that the more effective mode of flexibility was the wing twisting (or tilting) backwards as the air speed increased.

“There was then quite a useful seam of development we got into on allowing the front wing to bend, and that then helped you in the low speed, and you have a stable rear in the high-speed, which was quite good.

“But the FIA, obviously, brought in regulations this year that have limited that quite significantly. It took us a bit of time to readapt after those rules came in in Barcelona."
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Jan 2026, 17:38
Confirmation by Mercedes that the bendy wings help them, and the telling us how it works. They were also affected by the stricter rules.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mercedes- ... ew-shovlin

It seem the Mercedes bendy front wing helped turning in slow speed corners without compromising stability at high speed. You could deduce from this that the front wing was steeper at low speeds - impinging to add more front down-force, and bent back to a shallower angle at high speeds to reduce font down-force and have a more stable rear. You can deduce that the more effective mode of flexibility was the wing twisting (or tilting) backwards as the air speed increased.

“There was then quite a useful seam of development we got into on allowing the front wing to bend, and that then helped you in the low speed, and you have a stable rear in the high-speed, which was quite good.

“But the FIA, obviously, brought in regulations this year that have limited that quite significantly. It took us a bit of time to readapt after those rules came in in Barcelona."
Mclaren was able to have a well-balanced car with a good front end without any gimmicks. So flexy wings was a band-aid to fix bad fundamentals.
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