2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Sep 2025, 23:46
AR3-GP wrote:
02 Sep 2025, 22:16
Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Sep 2025, 22:06
I think Monza could be Tsunoda best chance. It might be bad on traction but in Low Df it's faster in high speed corners than any car out there. Which means insane top speeds out of parabolica. I wouldn't be surprised if Max wins by 20 seconds and if the car was like 5-10kph faster than everyone.
Mclaren will win comfortably.
You watched Spa Sprint ?. McLaren also don't have a really good low downforce set-up similar to Red Bull's issue last year. Ferrari can't run the car low enough for the high speeds of Monza but they might go all out and figure something out. Mercedes is the real threat but they don't have pace in high speed corners. Williams are naturally fast in Low Downforce. Would not be surprised if McLaren don't win the next three even if Red bull doesn't.
Ferrari will be very strong in Monza. They're bringing a super specific and skinny wing and they will pump the engine like hell, it's their typical way to "save" a disaster of a season like this. I can see Red Bull behind them and McLaren.

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New PU for Max this weekend.
For Verstappen, this is the ideal opportunity to lower the wings and also make the necessary changes to the engine. After the Dutch GP at the Zandvoort circuit, where the Dutchman managed to finish second, Verstappen casually confirmed that the RB21 will be equipped with a new combustion engine. "New bike next week, so a bit more power," he said to the media present in the paddock.
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Sep 2025, 20:27
New PU for Max this weekend.
For Verstappen, this is the ideal opportunity to lower the wings and also make the necessary changes to the engine. After the Dutch GP at the Zandvoort circuit, where the Dutchman managed to finish second, Verstappen casually confirmed that the RB21 will be equipped with a new combustion engine. "New bike next week, so a bit more power," he said to the media present in the paddock.
I've lost count... is that comes with a penalty? Or still within the pool?

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Paa wrote:
03 Sep 2025, 21:26
AR3-GP wrote:
03 Sep 2025, 20:27
New PU for Max this weekend.
For Verstappen, this is the ideal opportunity to lower the wings and also make the necessary changes to the engine. After the Dutch GP at the Zandvoort circuit, where the Dutchman managed to finish second, Verstappen casually confirmed that the RB21 will be equipped with a new combustion engine. "New bike next week, so a bit more power," he said to the media present in the paddock.
I've lost count... is that comes with a penalty? Or still within the pool?
I think he only used 3 so far.

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Three years that they changed the PU with penalty in Spa negating Max 3 devastating poles (and maybe a win last year), and now that nothing is in contention everything is alright :mrgreen:

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I think Red bull will do quite well this week, if the car rotates well in parabolica, I think there's even a chance of pole. RB21 is probably the most aero efficient car on the grid, that combined with the fact that Red Bull will be bringing a new low DF wing to Monza for the 1st time these regs and the high speed corner performace whilst not suffering too much in chicanes, I think will make it very competitve with MCL.

Last season they weirdly didn't go faster on new softs in Q3, so that's another thing RBR have to look out for.

Ferrari as always will be competitive here, Merc remains a wildcard.

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Sergej wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 08:14
Three years that they changed the PU with penalty in Spa negating Max 3 devastating poles (and maybe a win last year), and now that nothing is in contention everything is alright :mrgreen:
They took their pace advantage too lightly I feel and didn't push for engines reliability/wear as much as Merc. When they finally realised this season they would not be able to compete with MCL if they had to take an extra engine penalty, they had to push to make their engines last longer.

Maybe Honda weren't as interested as Merc in improving their engines, given they had planned to step away from F1 initially.

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euv2 wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 08:17
Last season they weirdly didn't go faster on new softs in Q3, so that's another thing RBR have to look out for.
Last seaon's car setup in Spa/Monza was mega disaster - remember the lowDF rear wing created after great research just by using scissors on a mediumDF wing ?

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venkyhere wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 08:38
euv2 wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 08:17
Last season they weirdly didn't go faster on new softs in Q3, so that's another thing RBR have to look out for.
Last seaon's car setup in Spa/Monza was mega disaster - remember the lowDF rear wing created after great research just by using scissors on a mediumDF wing ?
Yeah, RBR were caught out by teams catching up so quickly, given their strong start 24. Probably thought they'd be OK with running higher DF wings like the rb19.

We'll likely see the return of the hand saw with the trimmed-out front wings.

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Sergej wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 08:14
Three years that they changed the PU with penalty in Spa negating Max 3 devastating poles (and maybe a win last year), and now that nothing is in contention everything is alright :mrgreen:
Well, the season simply looks different...Spa was early this season and they did not use an engine in Austria, which is one of the power tracks. Furthermore they did not loose any engines on reliability or crashes early. Besides this they do the original plan with 5 races per engine, which was the plan for the seasons before as well, as far as I can see it.
But I would not be surprised if they go in Azer with engine Nr. 5 to fill the pool. This gives them the option to take another one if a Q goes sideways on the following tracks. Another new engine for Vegas or Qatar might be king.
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