2025 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, Sep 19-21

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Farnborough wrote:
20 Sep 2025, 11:07
venkyhere wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 16:26
Didn't watch FP1 & FP2 , so have no idea which car(s) 'looked stable/on rails' and which ones were 'at the teetering edge'. Requesting someone who actually watched the sessions to kindly shed some 'qualitative info' about this....

Can't glean anything just by looking at data alone, as fuel loads, engine modes etc come into play.
However, from the fastest laps of the top players from FP2, saw something strange :

https://i.ibb.co/j9ZSxS53/Max-delaying- ... 2-Baku.png

Not sure whether I should read something into this (hiding pace by delaying/not-doing upshifts w.r.t others)
Perhaps slightly "longer" ratios 7/8th to give overspeed with rear wing open and not be quite so limited as others in drs overtake scenario. Could get them past, relatively, rev limited competitors on this long straight.
Yes, perhaps. But if you look at the screengrab in my post, we can see this 'delayed upshift from driver' even from 4th,5th gears, all the way to 7th,8th. Will they design a gearbox that has 'longer ratios' - period ; rather than longer in only the higher gears ? It all looks a bit strange, TBH. This is what, 10th, 11th year of this engine/powertain cycle ? I expected everyone to have converged (except Renault) on the same kind of ratios and torque outputs atleast in the majority of the operational zone. I can understand if there are differences in lower gears 1st,2nd,3rd (traction out of slow hairpins, race start etc), but didn't expect to see something like this. Scanned the plots from FP3 as well. Even there, the difference exists (even Tsunoda doing the same 'delayed w.r.t competition' upshifts).

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Sergej
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I followed little this weekend, why some drivers saved so few sets of soft ? is the medium faster ?

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Sergej wrote:
20 Sep 2025, 14:09
I followed little this weekend, why some drivers saved so few sets of soft ? is the medium faster ?
more stable, and therefor faster in total, yeah- or that's what the teams think, at least. Many haven't even touched the mediums yet.

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interestingly, Vowles blamed the wind for Albon's crash. He caught a gust (from the front, I guess), leading to more grip than usual into turn one.

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Sergej
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red flag festival...

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This is getting ridiculous now its like amateur hour, could be a record here for most red flags in a qualifying session

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Sick to death of street circuits, so much comes down too luck

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proteus
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Wasnt Leclerc posting his time under yellows?
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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As I thought, Max looks the favourite.
Just a fan's point of view

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Leclerc ruined Hamilton's first lap then Ferrari protected Leclerc by putting him on mediums and left Hamilton on softs. What a team

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They criticized Vettel when he couldnt match Leclerc. But he was never that far of the pace than Lewis is now. People have to realize Leclerc in the best driver on the grid now beside Max, he dominated Seb and now its the same with Lewis. Just give him the car and he will deliver the title…

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proteus wrote:
20 Sep 2025, 15:13
Wasnt Leclerc posting his time under yellows?
Isn’t the start finish line before the yellow section of turn 1 for Strolls incident?
Just a fan's point of view

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Vettel165 wrote:
20 Sep 2025, 15:14
They criticized Vettel when he couldnt match Leclerc. But he was never that far of the pace than Lewis is now. People have to realize Leclerc in the best driver on the grid now beside Max, he dominated Seb and now its the same with Lewis. Just give him the car and he will deliver the title…
Actually Hamilton has been matching and even was faster than Charles this weekend so far. It's just tough luck this time. Took a gamble, didn't work. Expect him to come back strong tomorrow. Also, it's Baku, anything can happen!

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Vettel165 wrote:
20 Sep 2025, 15:14
They criticized Vettel when he couldnt match Leclerc. But he was never that far of the pace than Lewis is now. People have to realize Leclerc in the best driver on the grid now beside Max, he dominated Seb and now its the same with Lewis. Just give him the car and he will deliver the title…
Aged well

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There we go again Charles