2025 McLaren F1 Team

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chengzhongyi2013
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The WDC fight properly begins from today.
Enjoy the ride!

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UnaF1 wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:36
Piastri is very good long term solution, but they should let Lando go. He's just a journeyman.
Apart from everyone who has been on the 2nd RedBull seat since Ricciardo left them, I have never seen a driver lose credibility so fast. Went from a promising young talent impressing in the midfield, to a fast driver who was cracking a bit easily under pressure and now to a driver that is way too timid, makes too many mistakes, and is frequently out-paced by his way less-experienced teammate.

Can't remember the last time Lando actually clutched something. Costly mistakes though, we get those every race weekend.
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UnaF1 wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:36
Piastri is very good long term solution, but they should let Lando go. He's just a journeyman.
And sign who?
Just a fan's point of view

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UnaF1 wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:36
Piastri is very good long term solution, but they should let Lando go. He's just a journeyman.
No doubt Piastri is good but what did Norris do wrong today? McLaren screwed him today with a slow stop again. He would have been one or two places further up if it wasn't for that slow stop.

If you're talking about qualifying, well Piastri put it into the wall so 🤷🏻‍♂️

geogate
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he was terrible at the start and the restart, absolutely awful - and i like the guy

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Emag wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:31
McLarenHonda wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:17
Exactly what I was talking about! A 25-0 and the championship suddenly looks out of McLaren’s hands!

If they don’t choose their No1 driver after Baku they’ll probably lose the driver’s title…
How is it McLaren's fault that their championship leader bins into the wall two days in a row and their second driver is so scared of racing he puts up zero resistance. The worst race for McLaren this season. They had the pace for a 2-3 at least with a perfect execution yet everything went wrong.

If McLaren is unable to win a championship after dominating more than half the season then that's not a team-politics problem. They just need new drivers.
How?

They should have put Piastri as No1 since day 1! Yeah he put it in the wall today but he could have been many more points ahead of Max…

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trinidefender wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:45
No doubt Piastri is good but what did Norris do wrong today? McLaren screwed him today with a slow stop again. He would have been one or two places further up if it wasn't for that slow stop.
I don't think the pit stop changed much. He would probably have come out behind Leclerc nonetheless.

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Just been one of those bad weekends where nothing went right.
We’ve enjoyed plenty of good weekends this season so it’s not all bad.
On to Singapore :mrgreen:
Just a fan's point of view

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search wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:53
trinidefender wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:45
No doubt Piastri is good but what did Norris do wrong today? McLaren screwed him today with a slow stop again. He would have been one or two places further up if it wasn't for that slow stop.
I don't think the pit stop changed much. He would probably have come out behind Leclerc nonetheless.
his pitstop was 4.1 secs, the ideal stop would be around 2 secs, so he lost 2 secs which would have made him come out ahead of Lawson and Tsunoda comfortably, but with cold tyres would he have kept them behind will be a mystery

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McLarenHonda wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:51
Emag wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:31
McLarenHonda wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:17
Exactly what I was talking about! A 25-0 and the championship suddenly looks out of McLaren’s hands!

If they don’t choose their No1 driver after Baku they’ll probably lose the driver’s title…
How is it McLaren's fault that their championship leader bins into the wall two days in a row and their second driver is so scared of racing he puts up zero resistance. The worst race for McLaren this season. They had the pace for a 2-3 at least with a perfect execution yet everything went wrong.

If McLaren is unable to win a championship after dominating more than half the season then that's not a team-politics problem. They just need new drivers.
How?

They should have put Piastri as No1 since day 1! Yeah he put it in the wall today but he could have been many more points ahead of Max…
This is a horrible take. Lando was leading the wdc up until round 4. Then after that, the races that Lando won, he won because he was faster and the races that Oscar won, he won because he was the faster one.

None of them would have made way for the other if they knew they had the pace to win themselves.

The real issue is that the drivers have been all over the place. If you had one you can count on to be on top of his game every race weekend, then you dont have this problem.

I am sorry but you would have to be a huge fanboy not to admit that Max would have sealed up this championship easily by now if he was driving for McLaren.
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cliffgamerz wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:58
search wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:53
trinidefender wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:45
No doubt Piastri is good but what did Norris do wrong today? McLaren screwed him today with a slow stop again. He would have been one or two places further up if it wasn't for that slow stop.
I don't think the pit stop changed much. He would probably have come out behind Leclerc nonetheless.
his pitstop was 4.1 secs, the ideal stop would be around 2 secs, so he lost 2 secs which would have made him come out ahead of Lawson and Tsunoda comfortably, but with cold tyres would he have kept them behind will be a mystery
He came out 2s behind Leclerc, so only gap would be smaller.

geogate
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we got what we deserved this weekend, team and both drivers. Lets hope it kicks ouit any complacency that may have been setting in

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search wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:53
trinidefender wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:45
No doubt Piastri is good but what did Norris do wrong today? McLaren screwed him today with a slow stop again. He would have been one or two places further up if it wasn't for that slow stop.
I don't think the pit stop changed much. He would probably have come out behind Leclerc nonetheless.
His pitstop was 4.1 seconds. He came out 1.87 seconds behind leclercs. With a stop of 2.2 seconds he would have been smack in the battle but crucially in front of leclerc with brand new tyres. Odds are he would have got one or two more positions by the end.

I missed seeing the start but the criticism about the restart is valid, however if you're going to use that logic then it also has to be applied to Piastri. A crash in qualifying, false start in the race and the crashing in the race. Sounds like an absolute howler to me.

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CjC wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:44
UnaF1 wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:36
Piastri is very good long term solution, but they should let Lando go. He's just a journeyman.
And sign who?
I'm quite sure that there's someone with a hefty paycheck at McLaren who should be able to answer that question.

geogate
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most people here are applying it to piastri too - he had a mare of a weekend. Not sure what the point of all this whatabout'ism is