2025 McLaren F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
CjC
CjC
17
Joined: 03 Jul 2012, 20:13

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

FittingMechanics wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 18:56
I also think going medium at the start but not overtaking and then being forced to run a super long medium stint didn't help with the pace.

Lando losing two positions in first laps didn't help either.

Race to forget but a warning to the team. Their battle for WDC cannot and should not mean they choose suboptimal strategies and leave the points on the table for Max.
I get the logic with the medium to get a good launch but once again I preferred the Red Bull strategy- which was McLarens own strategy last season!

Lando said the Red Bull was unbelievably fast in places this race- which it was but it was always on the right tyres at the right time.

Least we have this to look forward to soon when Courtenay arrives :lol:
Just a fan's point of view

User avatar
AR3-GP
389
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

Oscar really knocked the stuffing out of his Mclaren this weekend. Will he need a third chassis in as many days?
It doesn't turn.

User avatar
bauc
35
Joined: 19 Jun 2013, 10:03
Location: Skopje, Macedonia

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

What an epic disaster, a weekend to forget.
Формула 1 на Македонски - The first ever Macedonian Formula 1 YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJkjCv ... 6rVRgKASwg

maxxer
maxxer
1
Joined: 13 May 2013, 12:01

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

He is lucky to avoid the grid penalty in Singapore as he is always such a good boy :)

User avatar
AR3-GP
389
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

"I think Lando had a strong race. He raced to the limit of the potential that was available in the car," Stella said. "I think no other driver in Lando's car could have scored more.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/stell ... /10761468/
It doesn't turn.

CjC
CjC
17
Joined: 03 Jul 2012, 20:13

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 20:08
"I think Lando had a strong race. He raced to the limit of the potential that was available in the car," Stella said. "I think no other driver in Lando's car could have scored more.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/stell ... /10761468/
….under the circumstances that played out.

The car and both drivers were more than capable to finish on the podium.

Strategy, car set up and qualifying nailed Lando to 7th.

This is just classic Sir Alex Ferguson type of management to defend the players (Lando) to the media
Just a fan's point of view

Ben1980
Ben1980
1
Joined: 19 Jun 2022, 10:11

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

CjC wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 20:14
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 20:08
"I think Lando had a strong race. He raced to the limit of the potential that was available in the car," Stella said. "I think no other driver in Lando's car could have scored more.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/stell ... /10761468/
….under the circumstances that played out.

The car and both drivers were more than capable to finish on the podium.

Strategy, car set up and qualifying nailed Lando to 7th.

This is just classic Sir Alex Ferguson type of management to defend the players (Lando) to the media
2nd and 3rd should have been the start positions, and then likely finishing positions.

But when in the field, this car isnt designed for that, especially on this track.

User avatar
AR3-GP
389
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

Piastri really struggled on the last 3 street tracks. Monaco, Canada, Baku. There's a trend. So I would expect Lando to have him covered in Singapore (like last year)
It doesn't turn.

CjC
CjC
17
Joined: 03 Jul 2012, 20:13

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

Agreed
Just a fan's point of view

User avatar
BMMR61
0
Joined: 25 May 2021, 13:02
Location: Australia.

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

Plenty of hyperbole around Oscar's weekend and rightly so. I was amazed at his Q3 shocker but then his attempt at a race was beyond fathomable, given he has been the most steady, reliable driver in F1. There's a reason for everything and I wonder if this can be reasoned down to him taking his eye off the immediate and looking at the big prize down the road. I'm sure Webber will have him aside and will be regrounding him after clearly he had become unhinged from his normal state.

It looks a bit like the Red Bull aero sensitivity issues have been transferred to McLaren. The car is seemingly more susceptible to wind changes, following another car and so on. Some head scratching to be done before another street circuit.

User avatar
venkyhere
23
Joined: 10 Feb 2024, 06:17

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

Piastri will feel he 'escaped jail' this weekend, despite his mistakes. Here's why :
- points gap could have been slashed by 15 or more points, ended up getting slashed only by 9 (3 last weekend from team orders, 6 this weekend due to Norris finishing where he started)
- Q mistake and R mistake happened the same weekend. From the law of averages, 'putting in the wall' mistakes are bound to catch up. Instead of driving a race from P20 to P10 due to a Q mistake, or instead of DNFing a race from pole position, this was an all-rolled-into-one weekend.

No matter which way it's spun, this was the golden opportunity that Norris had, and he didn't take it. Because he was too afraid of a DNF himself as he was chasing people like Tsunoda/Lawson (who are both junior K-mag basically) and was afraid to 'make-a-daring-move' into T15 or T3 or some other place where people don't expect it, instead of the conventional T1 (glaring examples of which, we have from Piastri - like in Jeddah where he passed Hamilton before T22, like in Monza where he passed LeClerc through Lesmo1 etc). So the risk v/s reward for Norris was what ? If taking the risk fails and ends up in a DNF, there will be no change to the WDC standings, while if the risk succeeds, he would have ended up slashing the points by 12 or 15. Instead, he has taken the no-risk approach, and settled for a slashing of points gap of 6.

Summary : Norris is allowing Piastri to win this WDC unchallenged, because he isn't punishing his teammates mistakes, on tracks where he can easily be the dominant one, purely driving style wise.

This is my objective analysis, neither driver I have emotional attachment to.

Ben1980
Ben1980
1
Joined: 19 Jun 2022, 10:11

Re: 2025 McLaren F1 Team

Post

venkyhere wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 06:32
Piastri will feel he 'escaped jail' this weekend, despite his mistakes. Here's why :
- points gap could have been slashed by 15 or more points, ended up getting slashed only by 9 (3 last weekend from team orders, 6 this weekend due to Norris finishing where he started)
- Q mistake and R mistake happened the same weekend. From the law of averages, 'putting in the wall' mistakes are bound to catch up. Instead of driving a race from P20 to P10 due to a Q mistake, or instead of DNFing a race from pole position, this was an all-rolled-into-one weekend.

No matter which way it's spun, this was the golden opportunity that Norris had, and he didn't take it. Because he was too afraid of a DNF himself as he was chasing people like Tsunoda/Lawson (who are both junior K-mag basically) and was afraid to 'make-a-daring-move' into T15 or T3 or some other place where people don't expect it, instead of the conventional T1 (glaring examples of which, we have from Piastri - like in Jeddah where he passed Hamilton before T22, like in Monza where he passed LeClerc through Lesmo1 etc). So the risk v/s reward for Norris was what ? If taking the risk fails and ends up in a DNF, there will be no change to the WDC standings, while if the risk succeeds, he would have ended up slashing the points by 12 or 15. Instead, he has taken the no-risk approach, and settled for a slashing of points gap of 6.

Summary : Norris is allowing Piastri to win this WDC unchallenged, because he isn't punishing his teammates mistakes, on tracks where he can easily be the dominant one, purely driving style wise.

This is my objective analysis, neither driver I have emotional attachment to.
How many non offsett tyre overtakes did you see when both cars had drs? In the whole race.