2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Luscion]

Lewis -

“I’ve enjoyed it, I felt on it all weekend, I felt good in the car. Maybe silly me but I thought we were fighting for top positions.”

“Just the way the plan goes, where we end up waiting in the pit lane, losing tyre temperatures, using the tyre in the outlap then coming in… All these different things add up to not optimising the session.”

“We have to do some work to try and figure out how to optimise these sessions better.”

“When I got to Q3… I just… had nothing. Had lost half a second in performance just from the tyres. That’s frustrating but I’ll try my best tomorrow.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1974488515866939535

[r85]

Lewis did an outlap at the end of Q2 on fresh softs, then does his first Q3 lap on fresh softs and comes out on the scrubbed softs for his 2nd Q3 lap. My brain is struggling to process this.

I mean wtf was that? Why would you not save your new softs for the last lap? Who uses their last set of new soft for a banker? This is mad.

He was genuinely on for a 3rd place today. Went faster on scrubbed softs for his final lap ending up 1.5 - 2 tenths behind Piastri. Doesn't matter anyway, just have to hope they can bother the McLarens tomorrow to help Max close up on Oscar.

[woocasz]

The only thing standing between Ferrari and fourth place in the WCC is Yuki...

[deadhead]

Lewis -

“I’ve enjoyed it, I felt on it all weekend, I felt good in the car. Maybe silly me but I thought we were fighting for top positions.”

“Just the way the plan goes, where we end up waiting in the pit lane, losing tyre temperatures, using the tyre in the outlap then coming in… All these different things add up to not optimising the session.”

“We have to do some work to try and figure out how to optimise these sessions better.”

“When I got to Q3… I just… had nothing. Had lost half a second in performance just from the tyres. That’s frustrating but I’ll try my best tomorrow.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1974488515866939535

Opposite end of the spectrum.. suddenly

LEC

“yes, very difficult. it was a very difficult weekend. FP1 was good, we had a bit of margin, but we were forced to modify something in the car.

then in FP2 we struggled. there’s always a reason behind it, but it’s not enough when a team like MERC - who should’ve struggled in the heat, on this track - actually puts it on pole. there’s no excuse. we need to do better.

i don’t know what to say anymore, i’m very sorry, but the car is just undrivable.”

[ScuderiaLeo]

Unbelievable, Vasseur just said their FP1 proves the potential in the car was there and that they didn't have problems with the tires.

This is at the same time Leclerc is saying their FP1 was unrepresentative because they were forced to alter the car and we all know it's because of the ride height.

I usually defend Vasseur on here but this is getting ridiculous

[woocasz]

CL: "We had to make some changes after FP1, and since FP1 we've been struggling, especially me, I was nowhere. It's been two weekends now that I haven't had any feeling with the car. I'm not where I should be."

Charles: "I don't have a good feeling with the car, and what's strange is that it's on street circuits where I'm normally comfortable. Mercedes on pole? I have no explanation, I guess they found something we didn't."

Fred's comment:
Fred: "We didn't get the most out of the car. It's disappointing when you look at what we did on Friday morning and in Q1."

[Luscion]

Unbelievable, Vasseur just said their FP1 proves the potential in the car was there and that they didn't have problems with the tires.

This is at the same time Leclerc is saying their FP1 was unrepresentative because they were forced to alter the car and we all know it's because of the ride height.

I usually defend Vasseur on here but this is getting ridiculous

How does he manage to contradict his drivers every weekend lol

ok at least in the AR article he said this

The car is not easy to drive, it is not easy to find the right approach on the preparation lap, with the tires and perhaps if you are in good condition at the start of the lap, you are not at the end. And’ everything is very borderline”.

[ScuderiaLeo]

How does he manage to contradict his drivers every weekend lol

ok at least in the AR article he said this

The car is not easy to drive, it is not easy to find the right approach on the preparation lap, with the tires and perhaps if you are in good condition at the start of the lap, you are not at the end. And’ everything is very borderline”.

That quote makes more sense for the tires.

But I don't understand him saying FP1 proves anything. We all know FP1 shows nothing for Ferrari, when was the last time their Friday translated to a Saturday? 5 months ago?? Does he think we're dumb?

[edu2703]

Unbelievable, Vasseur just said their FP1 proves the potential in the car was there and that they didn't have problems with the tires.

This is at the same time Leclerc is saying their FP1 was unrepresentative because they were forced to alter the car and we all know it's because of the ride height.

I usually defend Vasseur on here but this is getting ridiculous

Honestly, I don't know if these statements by Vasseur are just cope or the words of someone desperate to justify the obvious.

It's all nonsense, like mentioning for the 3,456th time that the car's full potential wasn't extracted. Are the drivers incompetent and unable to extract 100% of the car, Vasseur? Or is it something else?

Now mentioning Friday's performance as if it mattered, is bordering on delusional. Vasseur will even blame the alignment of the stars just to avoid saying this car is garbage.

[Luscion]

How does he manage to contradict his drivers every weekend lol

ok at least in the AR article he said this

The car is not easy to drive, it is not easy to find the right approach on the preparation lap, with the tires and perhaps if you are in good condition at the start of the lap, you are not at the end. And’ everything is very borderline”.

That quote makes more sense for the tires.

But I don't understand him saying FP1 proves anything. We all know FP1 shows nothing for Ferrari, when was the last time their Friday translated to a Saturday? 5 months ago?? Does he think we're dumb?

Yea mentioning FP1 makes no sense, its completely meaningless especially in Singapore where its a literal day and night difference between free practice and quali/race and everyone is still tweaking their cars, he could have at least mentioned Q1. And at this point yes, i do think he thinks people are dumb, the season is almost over and we're still waiting for this so called potential to be unlocked.

[ScuderiaLeo]

He did mention Q1, he said their times were the same in Q1 and Q3 so something must've gone wrong, but during Q1 they thought they had good pace.

But even mentioning Q1 doesn't make sense, most teams don't put their best efforts into Q1 since their only goal is to make it through. If Ferrari try hard in Q1 but the other teams don't then that isn't a good representation of their pace.

Nobody in their right mind would look at Ferrari in FP1 or Q1 and think this is where the car should be

[Emag]

This whole plank wear issue has been milked a bit too much in my opinion. I think it's fair to say at this point that the concept is just flawed. You don't consider an illegal state of the car as the "true performance". All teams on the grid can get an extra tenth or two by running lower than they can get away with from a plank wear legality perspective.

The true performance of the car is what you can get out of it while running the car within the legal bounds, and this car, when it is run within legal bounds, it's just not good enough. It's 2nd fastest on a good day, and 4th fastest most of the time. They just messed it up. It's disappointing to go into this bland car coming from the exciting end to 2024, but what can you do. It's just a bit tiring seeing them go with the same story of "not getting the maximum out of the car" weekend after weekend. The car is just not good enough. Admit it and focus on the new regulations.

[deadhead]

Does he think we're dumb?

Yes.

[f1316]

Lewis -

“I’ve enjoyed it, I felt on it all weekend, I felt good in the car. Maybe silly me but I thought we were fighting for top positions.”

“Just the way the plan goes, where we end up waiting in the pit lane, losing tyre temperatures, using the tyre in the outlap then coming in… All these different things add up to not optimising the session.”

“We have to do some work to try and figure out how to optimise these sessions better.”

“When I got to Q3… I just… had nothing. Had lost half a second in performance just from the tyres. That’s frustrating but I’ll try my best tomorrow.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1974488515866939535

I do think that how they come out of the pits and prepare the tyre is a big differentiator for Ferrari - the Hungary pole came out of nowhere and happened when Leclerc wasn’t waiting in a queue. Lewis is right that they need to learn from Mercedes and take a similar approach.

I wonder what changes they “had” to make after FP1 - I bet it was plank related and explains how they went backwards.

[Seanspeed]

I really wish they didn't cancel their floor upgrade they were supposed to bring at Hungary especially when it was already being physically developed. Might lose P2 in the constructors because of it as well

Antonelli has looked good recently, I see no chance of them keeping P2 in the WCC.

It's so insanely annoying that the drivers clearly aren't allowed to say anything. I'm getting so damn tired of this as a fan. This is the end of the season with nothing to gain from 'hiding problems' or whatever. It's completely ridiculous. This is muzzling out of sheer insecurity of looking bad as a company. And I fear that might actually be symptomatic of what's wrong within the team. If you're afraid to admit problems openly and have some humility, then you're probably not building the right kind of environment to progress.