2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Did Tsunoda get the new wing? Almost 0.8 seconds from Verstappen.

[aldestroya]

Did Tsunoda get the new wing? Almost 0.8 seconds from Verstappen.

All weekend they have been saying the upgrade was only for Max

[Farnborough]

Logical that MV would have that modification, his team mates all consistently say they can't run with as much front flap and such accute steering response.

[ispano6]

Yuki is not getting the tires up to temperature. He barely even tried to get them up. His tyre warmup swerving is lacking or needs to be more like Max's. Why doesn't he get better coaching?

[euv2]

Wow, I didn't realise Max was so close to pole, just 0.005 off before turn 17 and Max was slightly faster than Russell in these last 2 corners on their first run, made up about 0.058s. Would have been pole if he just matched his previous or went slightly faster. Lando might just have cost pole, smh, such close margins.

[Juzh]

Its what ive been saying.

[venkyhere]

Was travelling today and missed both FP3 and Q.
From the results, looks like Russel and Max were clearly ahead of the rest of the leading pack (NOR, PIA, ANT, Ferrari have been a non-factor all year long so in my books they are no longer part of the lead-pack) who all set very similar times and found their glass cieling around 1.29.5. Must have been a brushing the wall lap from Russel, he has the talent and the nothing-to-lose WDC position to be fearless. Quite the opposite for the McLarens - they cannot take the 'brush-the-wall' type attack role on their lap. As regards Max, I'm guessing he made some mistakes apart from some complaints about traffic. As I pointed out on thursday itself from Albert Fabrega pictures, Merc were running the lowest wing of all and that helped the dominance in straights, Let's wait and see how Russel's tyres hold up in the race tomorrow.

[f1isgood]

Was travelling today and missed both FP3 and Q.
From the results, looks like Russel and Max were clearly ahead of the rest of the leading pack (NOR, PIA, ANT, Ferrari have been a non-factor all year long so in my books they are no longer part of the lead-pack) who all set very similar times and found their glass cieling around 1.29.5. Must have been a brushing the wall lap from Russel, he has the talent and the nothing-to-lose WDC position to be fearless. Quite the opposite for the McLarens - they cannot take the 'brush-the-wall' type attack role on their lap. As regards Max, I'm guessing he made some mistakes apart from some complaints about traffic. As I pointed out on thursday itself from Albert Fabrega pictures, Merc were running the lowest wing of all and that helped the dominance in straights, Let's wait and see how Russel's tyres hold up in the race tomorrow.

Around Singapore Russell's gamble might just work given that passing is basically next to impossible given the difficulty of following. Strategy will come to play but McLaren will be better on the tired bringing Oscar into play. So it has to be a perfect race and start for Max to get P2. P3 looks more realistic in my opinion. I would be surprised if McLaren aren't at least a shade quicker in the race than Red Bull.

[SB15]

Was travelling today and missed both FP3 and Q.
From the results, looks like Russel and Max were clearly ahead of the rest of the leading pack (NOR, PIA, ANT, Ferrari have been a non-factor all year long so in my books they are no longer part of the lead-pack) who all set very similar times and found their glass cieling around 1.29.5. Must have been a brushing the wall lap from Russel, he has the talent and the nothing-to-lose WDC position to be fearless. Quite the opposite for the McLarens - they cannot take the 'brush-the-wall' type attack role on their lap. As regards Max, I'm guessing he made some mistakes apart from some complaints about traffic. As I pointed out on thursday itself from Albert Fabrega pictures, Merc were running the lowest wing of all and that helped the dominance in straights, Let's wait and see how Russel's tyres hold up in the race tomorrow.

[SB15]

Was travelling today and missed both FP3 and Q.
From the results, looks like Russel and Max were clearly ahead of the rest of the leading pack (NOR, PIA, ANT, Ferrari have been a non-factor all year long so in my books they are no longer part of the lead-pack) who all set very similar times and found their glass cieling around 1.29.5. Must have been a brushing the wall lap from Russel, he has the talent and the nothing-to-lose WDC position to be fearless. Quite the opposite for the McLarens - they cannot take the 'brush-the-wall' type attack role on their lap. As regards Max, I'm guessing he made some mistakes apart from some complaints about traffic. As I pointed out on thursday itself from Albert Fabrega pictures, Merc were running the lowest wing of all and that helped the dominance in straights, Let's wait and see how Russel's tyres hold up in the race tomorrow.

Actually the Mercedes rear wing is their max downforce wing. It’s incredibly aero
Efficient.

[Badger]

https://postimg.cc/jw4JDMzR
Wow, I didn't realise Max was so close to pole, just 0.005 off before turn 17 and Max was slightly faster than Russell in these last 2 corners on their first run, made up about 0.058s. Would have been pole if he just matched his previous or went slightly faster. Lando might just have cost pole, smh, such close margins.

He was one tenth behind going into T16. Looking in the middle of the chicane isn't particularly useful considering the dirty air made him lock up and go deep, gaining him time in the middle but costing a lot on the exit.

I think it's unlikely he would've made up one tenth in the chicane and final corner, albeit not impossible.

[Emag]

https://postimg.cc/jw4JDMzR
Wow, I didn't realise Max was so close to pole, just 0.005 off before turn 17 and Max was slightly faster than Russell in these last 2 corners on their first run, made up about 0.058s. Would have been pole if he just matched his previous or went slightly faster. Lando might just have cost pole, smh, such close margins.

This is not the representative gap to consider here. You should look at the gap right before the braking zone of T16 (which was 0.093). By the end of the braking zone, Max had a small lockup and ran a bit deep into the corner, which is why he temporarily gained a lot of time on George (which he had to give up, while slowing down to to take T17). It would have been really close, but Max would have needed a monster chicane + last corner to grab pole from George.

And I think the delta from F1InsightsHub should be relatively accurate for those particular laps. I took this screenshot at the S2 border and it shows the correct delta between them :

[euv2]

https://postimg.cc/jw4JDMzR
Wow, I didn't realise Max was so close to pole, just 0.005 off before turn 17 and Max was slightly faster than Russell in these last 2 corners on their first run, made up about 0.058s. Would have been pole if he just matched his previous or went slightly faster. Lando might just have cost pole, smh, such close margins.

He was one tenth behind going into T16. Looking in the middle of the chicane isn't particularly useful considering the dirty air made him lock up and go deep, gaining him time in the middle but costing a lot on the exit.

I think it's unlikely he would've made up one tenth in the chicane and final corner, albeit not impossible.

I also compared it Max's 1st lap, their curves are similar into braking almost overlapping, and at the point where they start to deviate Max is around 0.034s off George, so not giving Max any improvement in that corner. So, it was still possible.

[Sieper]

Yuki is not getting the tires up to temperature. He barely even tried to get them up. His tyre warmup swerving is lacking or needs to be more like Max's. Why doesn't he get better coaching?

Watch his onboards. Very poor. No control.

[Badger]

https://postimg.cc/jw4JDMzR
Wow, I didn't realise Max was so close to pole, just 0.005 off before turn 17 and Max was slightly faster than Russell in these last 2 corners on their first run, made up about 0.058s. Would have been pole if he just matched his previous or went slightly faster. Lando might just have cost pole, smh, such close margins.

He was one tenth behind going into T16. Looking in the middle of the chicane isn't particularly useful considering the dirty air made him lock up and go deep, gaining him time in the middle but costing a lot on the exit.

I think it's unlikely he would've made up one tenth in the chicane and final corner, albeit not impossible.

https://ibb.co/gLWBzbnj
I also compared it Max's 1st lap, their curves are similar into braking almost overlapping, and at the point where they start to deviate Max is around 0.034s off George, so not giving Max any improvement in that corner. So, it was still possible.

This data isn't accurate enough to make such precise comparisons. Whenever I look at these programs I only ever compare the delta before braking and after the exit. Trying to figure out exactly what is happening in the corner requires properly calibrated high frequency telemetry, which this isn't.

The bottom line is that Max would've needed to be half a tenth faster in the final sector compared to his previous (purple) to beat George. Possible, but improbable, especially considering he pushed much harder early on the second lap and didn't improve in S2. I think he would've been around half a tenth maybe.