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[Watto]

I don't think Max would have made the gap, that said I thought it was much close than I thought before looking at the data .

[euv2]

He was one tenth behind going into T16. Looking in the middle of the chicane isn't particularly useful considering the dirty air made him lock up and go deep, gaining him time in the middle but costing a lot on the exit.

I think it's unlikely he would've made up one tenth in the chicane and final corner, albeit not impossible.

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I also compared it Max's 1st lap, their curves are similar into braking almost overlapping, and at the point where they start to deviate Max is around 0.034s off George, so not giving Max any improvement in that corner. So, it was still possible.

This data isn't accurate enough to make such precise comparisons. Whenever I look at these programs I only ever compare the delta before braking and after the exit. Trying to figure out exactly what is happening in the corner requires properly calibrated high frequency telemetry, which this isn't.

The bottom line is that Max would've needed to be half a tenth faster in the final sector compared to his previous (purple) to beat George. Possible, but improbable, especially considering he pushed much harder early on the second lap and didn't improve in S2. I think he would've been around half a tenth maybe.

Yeah, difficult to compare esp. since Max ran deep into that corner, I forgot about that. So, it wouldn't have been enough, without any improvement in the final 2 corners George gets it by 0.050s.

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It's more likely to be a George win from pole tomorrow, but you never know. Would be big for the championship if Norris and especially Piastri run into trouble in the pack. But things look positive for Max

[Valeo]

If Russell stays in front, he'll surely back up the pack as I can't imagine he'll have the pace to run away with it like Norris last year. I'm sure Max gets a chance to pass but he has to do it right with the first or second try.

[euv2]

On tracks like this, it's almost worth overtaking outside the track limits, say a late lunge into turn1 on the outside and taking position and the 5 sec penalty(10sec with special instructions I think) that comes with it, like how RUS tried in Monaco. If the Car (Max) has enough race pace, they can make it work. Obviously risky with the red flags and early pitstops, don't think RBR and Max are that desperate yet.

[Badger]

Jumping George at the start could be tricky from the dirty side of the grid, I'd be more worried about Piastri on the first lap. Undercut is the most viable overtake strategy, but you better be sure you don't pit into traffic or a rogue teammate backing you up.

Also keep an eye on George's tyres. He's running less downforce and the Merc is hit and miss on deg.

[AR3-GP]

Russell was quicker in Q2, and quicker on both runs in Q3. Antonelli was shadowing Max the whole time. Both Russell and Antonelli had faster S1 and S2 times so it's not as though Mercedes was slower today. Also Tsunoda hasn't made any impression at all unlike Baku so pole today was by no means RBRs. I suspected that this would happen after seeing the sectors that Mercedes was doing, but I thought that it would be Antonelli in front. Antonelli was setting unbelievable sector times but just had some mistakes that he had to clean up. He never did. RB might be faster than Mclaren, but Mercedes found something more.

I think it bodes well that Max was quick in S3 as it indicates that the tires were in good shape across the entire lap. Overtaking into T1 doesn't happen in Singapore unless it's wet, so Max will not have any chance there. I would expect to finish P2 without any luck with the safety cars. The race leader can control the pace here. We might see Mercedes use Antonelli to build the pitstop gap for Russell like they did in Monaco. Tsunoda is too far away to do anything.

On future races, I think it's promising. Even if the car is improved in Singapore, that doesn't mean that this is the kind of circuit that this car was designed for. In the first part of the year, they were only quick on the higher speed tracks, and I still think that is where they can do better than the competition.

[AR3-GP]

Also, with Mercedes in the mix going forward, then the point scoring opportunities are in reality much greater.

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Also, with Mercedes in the mix going forward, then the point scoring opportunities are in reality much greater.

Why do you think mercedes would be in the mix going forward if Singapore is such an outlier track? History suggests they will pop up now and at Vegas and be irrelevant the rest of the time as usual

[Sergej]

Time to send it into T1 and do a Jeddah (role reversed), nothing to lose, everything to gain. Start with soft and go for it.

[venkyhere]

Time to send it into T1 and do a Jeddah (role reversed), nothing to lose, everything to gain. Start with soft and go for it.

THere is risk of everyone around and behind starting on M and hence having their pit windows coming at a later point than the soft starter ; which implies coming into traffic out of the pits, costing valuable lap time. But then, there is the advantage of jumping to P1 in lap1T1 (unless Russel also starts on S) and having clean air (very important on this track).
It's completely unpredictable as to what the optimal tyre strategy is. Luck has a huge role to play (red/yellow timing)as well.

[r85]

Time to send it into T1 and do a Jeddah (role reversed), nothing to lose, everything to gain. Start with soft and go for it.

Risky with the softs. Hamilton started on soft last year, had to pit early, was overcut by Russell who started on mediums and lost a lot of relative pace to the others because of the early pit stops. P3 -> P6. Really hoping for Max and Kimi to nail the start for a Max P1 and Piastri P4.

[f1isgood]

In general Max has everything to gain and nothing to lose. The WDC is a very long shot and if he wants to win it, he has to go full send and try something risky. If he DNF's thats okay as it looks like he will win a few more races to finish the year. If he gains a win it would be incredibly spectacular. Getting P2 to Piastri's P3 makes no dent into Piastri's lead. So it's P1 or nothing IMO. Also we don't know the relative car performances till the end of the year. Given that this is the case, it is even more important for Max to take all the risks NOW. It's now or never and if it's never it's perfectly fine as , as far as the WDC goes Max was never in it to begin with. Even him winning from here would be the biggest steal in the history of the sport by far.

[f1isgood]

Also, with Mercedes in the mix going forward, then the point scoring opportunities are in reality much greater.

Why do you think mercedes would be in the mix going forward if Singapore is such an outlier track? History suggests they will pop up now and at Vegas and be irrelevant the rest of the time as usual

Mercedes have been historically very good around Singapore actually in these regulations. I am not really sure if they will suddenly keep up this pace in any track with long-radius corners. We have to see.

[venkyhere]

In general Max has everything to gain and nothing to lose. The WDC is a very long shot and if he wants to win it, he has to go full send and try something risky. If he DNF's thats okay as it looks like he will win a few more races to finish the year. If he gains a win it would be incredibly spectacular. Getting P2 to Piastri's P3 makes no dent into Piastri's lead. So it's P1 or nothing IMO. Also we don't know the relative car performances till the end of the year. Given that this is the case, it is even more important for Max to take all the risks NOW. It's now or never and if it's never it's perfectly fine as , as far as the WDC goes Max was never in it to begin with. Even him winning from here would be the biggest steal in the history of the sport by far.

We don't know what Max we will see in the race today - geniusMax or madMax