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[Sergej]

There was nothing to do today, so good P2 in the end. That Mercedes ruined the plan

[DDopey]

I find the result today positive for the WDC.

[f1isgood]

The car is so bad at following another car, it's incredible the difference, Max starts sliding all over whilst Norris is stuck to Max's rear wing.

If someone like Norris is following for so long it's just massive pace difference especially in a track with immense dirty air. Car was just not even second best today. As usual Max did more than the car deserved.

[Valeo]

The worst is behind, let's see.
Would have been interesting to see the pace on mediums

[wiktor977]

The car is so bad at following another car, it's incredible the difference, Max starts sliding all over whilst Norris is stuck to Max's rear wing.

If someone like Norris is following for so long it's just massive pace difference especially in a track with immense dirty air. Car was just not even second best today. As usual Max did more than the car deserved.

third best lol

[f1isgood]

The car is so bad at following another car, it's incredible the difference, Max starts sliding all over whilst Norris is stuck to Max's rear wing.

If someone like Norris is following for so long it's just massive pace difference especially in a track with immense dirty air. Car was just not even second best today. As usual Max did more than the car deserved.

third best lol

Yeah I mean, Mercedes was better in qualifying and on the softer compounds.

And as I learned from the Papaya Thread their drivers bottled at the very least a P2 in the qualifying and hence a potential win in the race.

So yeah everything considered, on pace alone third best car. P2 isn't a bad result.

And Verstappen defending well as usual under pressure in a slower car. Good job.

[pantherxxx]

Gained 6 points on Piastri, that's a positive thing in this tyre overheating track. It's probably Red Bull's worst track, and still beat both Mclarens.

[AR3-GP]

I think the pace was there in race trim, but hindered by the gamble for softs and the consequences of that. The softs were not good compared to medium, then he had to push the hards on the outlap and was on older tires than those around him. After the stops, he was faster than Russell with older tires. Russell said he was struggling. There were some issues with downshifts and rear locking, but they didn't have any long running in FP2. The humidity makes the engine control more difficult.

Max complaining about being "undrivable" was slightly overblown imo. It's not the same as before. Other than the downshifting, the balance was good. Traction was good. There was never going to be an overtaking here, so it was decided by qualifying and Mercedes was just too quick yesterday considering the pace that both RUS and ANT were showing.

[f1isgood]

I think the pace was there in race trim, but hindered by the gamble for softs and the consequences of that. The softs were not good compared to medium, then he had to push the hards on the outlap and was on older tires than those around him. After the stops, he was faster than Russell with older tires. Russell said he was struggling. There were some issues with downshifts and rear locking, but they didn't have any long running in FP2. The humidity makes the engine control more difficult. There was never going to be an overtaking here, so it was decided by qualifying and Mercedes was just too quick yesterday considering the pace that both RUS and ANT showed.

Relative to McLaren the pace wasn't there on the hards in my opinion. If Lando had qualified ahead, easy win by 10+ seconds.

[AR3-GP]

I think the pace was there in race trim, but hindered by the gamble for softs and the consequences of that. The softs were not good compared to medium, then he had to push the hards on the outlap and was on older tires than those around him. After the stops, he was faster than Russell with older tires. Russell said he was struggling. There were some issues with downshifts and rear locking, but they didn't have any long running in FP2. The humidity makes the engine control more difficult. There was never going to be an overtaking here, so it was decided by qualifying and Mercedes was just too quick yesterday considering the pace that both RUS and ANT showed.

Relative to McLaren the pace wasn't there on the hards in my opinion. If Lando had qualified ahead, easy win by 10+ seconds.

Max was matching Norris (and both faster than Russell) with 8 laps older tires until Max locked up at whatever turn that was. Then the lockup has damaged the tires and compromised the pace. I didn't see anything too bad here and this is not a preferred circuit of the RB21.

The best laps between Max and the Mclarens/Merc are close despite having older tires (or more fuel) when it was done.

[Badger]

Clearly the Macca still had a big pace advantage here in the race, similar to last year. 6 points on Piastri and 3 points on Norris is very good under the circumstances. Still, it puts into perspective how unlikely the title challenge is. DNFs is the only way.

[f1isgood]

I think the pace was there in race trim, but hindered by the gamble for softs and the consequences of that. The softs were not good compared to medium, then he had to push the hards on the outlap and was on older tires than those around him. After the stops, he was faster than Russell with older tires. Russell said he was struggling. There were some issues with downshifts and rear locking, but they didn't have any long running in FP2. The humidity makes the engine control more difficult. There was never going to be an overtaking here, so it was decided by qualifying and Mercedes was just too quick yesterday considering the pace that both RUS and ANT showed.

Relative to McLaren the pace wasn't there on the hards in my opinion. If Lando had qualified ahead, easy win by 10+ seconds.

Max was matching Norris with 8 laps older tires until Max locked up at whatever turn that was. Then the lockup has damaged the tires and compromised the pace. I didn't see anything too bad here and this is not a preferred circuit of the RB21.

I agree the lockup cost Max a bit but I'm not entirely sure if it cost him so much pace to basically allow Lando to be in his DRS for so many laps especially with dirty air not clearing up in these walled tracks. I think McLaren would have been extremely quick in clean air but yeah the lock up is indeed a very good point that potentially cost Max some solid pace.

[pantherxxx]

I still believe Verstappen can win the championship. He just needs to win the remaining races, while Russell and Norris consistently take points off Piastri — then it’s definitely possible. Singapore was probably Red Bull’s weakest track, since the circuit’s endless corners don’t allow the tires to cool properly, leading to overheating. That gave McLaren a clear race-pace advantage, but the upcoming tracks should suit Red Bull much better.

[AR3-GP]

Relative to McLaren the pace wasn't there on the hards in my opinion. If Lando had qualified ahead, easy win by 10+ seconds.

Max was matching Norris with 8 laps older tires until Max locked up at whatever turn that was. Then the lockup has damaged the tires and compromised the pace. I didn't see anything too bad here and this is not a preferred circuit of the RB21.

I agree the lockup cost Max a bit but I'm not entirely sure if it cost him so much pace to basically allow Lando to be in his DRS for so many laps especially with dirty air not clearing up in these walled tracks. I think McLaren would have been extremely quick in clean air but yeah the lock up is indeed a very good point that potentially cost Max some solid pace.

Max was on 7 laps older tires that had a hard outlap and flat spot on them. Mclaren was fast but Max was right there or just a tenth behind in ideal conditions (tires of same age, not flat spot). It's not anything like the 1+ second a lap drubbing from last year. It doesn't matter anyway. This is a Mclaren circuit and Max finished in front. Mclaren's theoretical pace didn't earn them anything.

[Badger]

Max was matching Norris with 8 laps older tires until Max locked up at whatever turn that was. Then the lockup has damaged the tires and compromised the pace. I didn't see anything too bad here and this is not a preferred circuit of the RB21.

I agree the lockup cost Max a bit but I'm not entirely sure if it cost him so much pace to basically allow Lando to be in his DRS for so many laps especially with dirty air not clearing up in these walled tracks. I think McLaren would have been extremely quick in clean air but yeah the lock up is indeed a very good point that potentially cost Max some solid pace.

Max was on 7 laps older tires, that had a hard outlap and flat spot on them. Mclaren was fast (faster than Mercedes imo) but Red Bull was right there or just a tenth behind. Not anything like the 1+ second a lap drubbing from last year. It doesn't matter anyway. This is a Mclaren circuit and they finished in front. Mclaren's theoretical pace didn't earn them anything.

Lando hounding Max within a second for 20 laps tells me something different. That was more than just sub-optimal tyres. The McLaren still has the race pace advantage due to their incredibly low deg.