2025 McLaren F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

If you're looking for a TP that would do that then I suspect you have somewhat misjudged Stella. I find the chances absolutely miniscule that Stella would deliberately hinder one drivers chances and then lie about it.

It's the exact opposite of who this guy is.

Was it some other Andrea Stella behind the scenes at Ferrari when Schumacher and Alonso had their run-ins with team orders?

[mwillems]

If you're looking for a TP that would do that then I suspect you have somewhat misjudged Stella. I find the chances absolutely miniscule that Stella would deliberately hinder one drivers chances and then lie about it.

It's the exact opposite of who this guy is.

Was it some other Andrea Stella behind the scenes at Ferrari when Schumacher and Alonso had their run-ins with team orders?

Well he wasn't the team principal, this isn't Ferrari and we don't have Schumacher.

Trying to pretend otherwise won't change the fact that it is stupidly clear that it isn't how Stella runs this team, even if you do want to continue telling everyone that your tin foil hat really is a fedora.

[RedNEO]

Watching the start a few times, it looked a little like Verstappen backed Norris into Piastri.

Verstappen wasn't particularly quick through T3, and Norris wasn't out of shape until he hit Verstappen, while also being right under Verstappen's rear wing.

"Payback" for Saturday?

I think Verstappens “what tap? I didn’t feel anything” was telling lol. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if that was the intention all along to make Lando/Mclaren pay a price.

[Macklaren]

McLaren are just sleeping! They’ll wait till Max gets within 25 points of Piastri…

You have both of your cars close behind Verstapen…why not try and undercut with at least one of them? It’s what all teams would do if they had the chance! What a nonsense championship by McLaren…they’ll just lose the WDC in the end and then pretend they don’t care…

And McLaren will be fine with that outcome as long as they are fair to both drivers. And I'm pretty sure most of the team's fans will be as well. The culture of this team is very different to most other teams on the grid (and even in most other sports) and many other fans don't "get it"

[FittingMechanics]

They were trying to undercut Verstappen but they couldn't do it. There are two reasons for it, one is that Alonso was on track and Norris did not have the gap to pit in front of him. Second reason is that Verstappen was on softs and was going to pit the moment the gap opens (and he did).

[Darth-Piekus]

Now that the team got the Constructor's Championship back to back they have to help our drivers even with a last minute upgrade to secure the Driver's Championship and may the best of the two Mclaren drivers win.

[gshevlin]

Reminder: The race stewards looked at the Norris-Piastri incident and rapidly decided to do nothing, which tells me that they saw it as a racing incident. I am not sure why Oscar spent most of the race stewing over the outcome. His car was fine, and he was quick all race.

[BMMR61]

I am pro both our drivers, slightly favouring Oscar and I think yesterday proved a few unsurprising things.

Oscar is slightly slower than Lando overall but generally more efficient at nailing his final qualifying in a tricky car.
The McLaren still has the best race pace in clean air generally, especially in hot conditions.
Overtaking is very hard.
Oscar is getting stressed despite his previous calm demeanour.
Yesterday should be seen positively by all at McLaren as it changes nothing on the big picture - Max gained 5 points on Oscar, needs 10 per weekend.
It looks like the gloves will come off now or very soon between our two drivers.
Maybe people will stop whining about a boring season (but I doubt it).

[BMMR61]

Reminder: The race stewards looked at the Norris-Piastri incident and rapidly decided to do nothing, which tells me that they saw it as a racing incident. I am not sure why Oscar spent most of the race stewing over the outcome. His car was fine, and he was quick all race.

They seem to have issues with how much (or little) time to spend on decisions. After the Leclerc-Norris pitman they hilariously named car #4 for an unsafe release. Or deciding not to deliberate on a penalty until after the race - they had an hour before race start. Just two of many.....

[erikejw]

Verstappen to Mercedes 2027 and Piastri to Red bull 2027? Unless McLaren dominates next year. Any thoughts.

[BMMR61]

Verstappen to Mercedes 2027 and Piastri to Red bull 2027? Unless McLaren dominates next year. Any thoughts.

Why would we debate that this early? I think Oscar is a smart young chap and knows where he is best off. He is loved, he is on the rise, and is at a team still in upward trajectory.

I think Lando's move, while clumsy, was much less controversial than I expected when I got to see it in the morning (I watched on a live timing watch-along). Oscar did well to quell the media frenzy afterwards by saying he wanted to look at the replays before commenting further, and that proved well-founded. Even the stewards got it right this time, after shockers like the Oscar Silverstone penalty.

We can debate ad nauseam about McLaren management's interpretation of the so called papaya rules (very sketchy IMHO) but there was only one loser in the top 4 drivers at Silverstone, and it wasn't Oscar. Max needed to take an axe to Oscar's WDC lead and he got back 5, not 10 points. George drove a great race and scored a surprise win for M-B. Lando established himself as (this time around) the quicker McLaren driver, and Oscar comes away from a slump with a little bit of redemption being competitive around a street circuit he probably doesn't like.

[Ben1980]

Papaya rules.

Has the team said it this year? I recall it last season, but not much this year. Though everyone brings it up, like its some sort of fabled text.

Isn't it just, try not to take each other out. And im general they've done that, Lando took himself out once.

[ScottR267]

Now that the team got the Constructor's Championship back to back they have to help our drivers even with a last minute upgrade to secure the Driver's Championship and may the best of the two Mclaren drivers win.

Pretty sure Stella has said the team has stopped developing this years car with upgrades with a focus onto next year now

[Dimond]

Papaya rules.
Isn't it just, try not to take each other out.

Yes, and the opposite of these rules is "Keep your position" and "Fernando is faster than you".
At this point it's just a meme, people are calling Papaya rules any controversial decision the team makes.
McLaren must keep doing what they're doing and not be affected by the anonymous people trying to entertain themselves in the social media.

[basti313]

Reminder: The race stewards looked at the Norris-Piastri incident and rapidly decided to do nothing, which tells me that they saw it as a racing incident. I am not sure why Oscar spent most of the race stewing over the outcome. His car was fine, and he was quick all race.

Was he? He only could catch Verstappen and Norris when they were in traffic. I am not sure why, but Oscar was missing a lot of pace.
The stewards would surely have taken action in a situation between two teams. This is a usual "give the position back" situation. But as it is within one team it is the issue of the team. I think they did the right thing as Oscar would have been just a roadblock to Lando, he lost quite strongly in the first laps.

Maybe people will stop whining about a boring season (but I doubt it).

Finally some life in the McLaren drivers.
I hope they go on with it, not just drive it home like the rest of this season before.