2025 McLaren F1 Team

[SilviuAgo]

The team celebrating the WCC without Piastri was very sad to see. In fact, it was pretty disgusting.

That was a cheap show put in scene by the FIA/FOM. As the McLaren staff explained later, they were almost forced to be part of this, as the organizer request to broadcast the "celebration" for a new title. As was the discussion also regarding what is broadcasted, when, or what you see on TV (just remember what Alonso said about Liberty preferring to show some "stars" or "celebrities" in pit instead of late charge on Hamilton).

And regarding celebration... What a journey this team had last couple of years: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Elor3XbMra

[WardenOfTheNorth]

The team celebrating the WCC without Piastri was very sad to see. In fact, it was pretty disgusting.

That was a cheap show put in scene by the FIA/FOM. As the McLaren staff explained later, they were almost forced to be part of this, as the organizer request to broadcast the "celebration" for a new title. As was the discussion also regarding what is broadcasted, when, or what you see on TV (just remember what Alonso said about Liberty preferring to show some "stars" or "celebrities" in pit instead of late charge on Hamilton).

And regarding celebration... What a journey this team had last couple of years: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Elor3XbMra

https://media.formula1.com/image/upload ... 4.805.webp

Indeed despite Oscar and Lando seemingly remaining on good terms with each other and working well together all season, I fully expect DTS to paint a picture of a Civil War within McLaren as Team Lando and Team Oscar each vie for victory.

[Darth-Piekus]

The team celebrating the WCC without Piastri was very sad to see. In fact, it was pretty disgusting.

Out of curiosity. Weren't you the one that liked Daniel Ricciardo as a driver? Out of curiosity only.

[mwillems]

It was always going to come to.this and the team did a good job of managing it up to this point so the tensions didn't bubble up earlier.

But its past the point of no return and I dont think this could ever have been avoided. Its the biggest prize that the two drivers have spent nearly 2 decades working towards.

[Macklaren]

The team celebrating the WCC without Piastri was very sad to see. In fact, it was pretty disgusting.

Were Lando, Zak and Andrea ever on the podium? I didn't see them in the pics

[Seanspeed]

It was always going to come to.this and the team did a good job of managing it up to this point so the tensions didn't bubble up earlier.

But its past the point of no return and I dont think this could ever have been avoided. Its the biggest prize that the two drivers have spent nearly 2 decades working towards.

And there's zero guarantee that either driver will ever get this opportunity again.

It's time for both drivers to rip up the social contract and stop with the 'happy teammates' facade. It's gonna cause a bunch of pain and drama, but drivers aren't here for the teams and the camaraderie at the end of the day, they're here for themselves and the F1 title is basically what every one of these guys grew up dreaming of and aiming for.

And Piastri has so much justification for feeling aggrieved at this point. So no, Mclaren did not do a good job managing things up til now. He's constantly gotten the short end of the stick and probably doesn't feel half as welcome and supported in the team as a WDC leader probably should.

[mwillems]

Can you give some details? You've not put any basis for your opinion in the post.

I'll post this though. It's Oscar saying that he feels the team are treating them equally, that the incident won't change the way he races and that he doesn't think the Team will favour Lando in the title.

https://racingnews365.com/oscar-piastri ... s-incident

He then slightly condescended their decision by saying that it was "well meaning", clearly implying that they meant well but got it wrong. I suspect he thinks the team gave Lando the benefit of the doubt but he suspects Lando did it intentionally.

"There's obviously been some difficult situations for the whole team, and I think we've spoken about a number of things.

"Could things have been better at certain points? Yes, but ultimately, it's a learning process with the whole team, and I'm very, very happy that the intentions are very well-meaning.

"So I have absolutely no concerns about that. Yeah, just obviously there's been some tough situations this year, and this is another one."


I highly doubt that the person feeling as you described would make these statements, he'd be too p*ssed to go along with team PR instructions if he felt otherwise, in my opinion.

[De Wet]

The team celebrating the WCC without Piastri was very sad to see. In fact, it was pretty disgusting.

They didn't...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F4L0E5iYWXE

[BMMR61]

It was always going to come to.this and the team did a good job of managing it up to this point so the tensions didn't bubble up earlier.

But its past the point of no return and I dont think this could ever have been avoided. Its the biggest prize that the two drivers have spent nearly 2 decades working towards.

And there's zero guarantee that either driver will ever get this opportunity again.

It's time for both drivers to rip up the social contract and stop with the 'happy teammates' facade. It's gonna cause a bunch of pain and drama, but drivers aren't here for the teams and the camaraderie at the end of the day, they're here for themselves and the F1 title is basically what every one of these guys grew up dreaming of and aiming for.

And Piastri has so much justification for feeling aggrieved at this point. So no, Mclaren did not do a good job managing things up til now. He's constantly gotten the short end of the stick and probably doesn't feel half as welcome and supported in the team as a WDC leader probably should.

What???? First sentence - yep, never is, never will be.

So when we compare teammate rivalries of history how do you think McLaren 2025 are managing alongside;

2007 Alonso v Hamilton
2009 Button v Barrichello
2016 Rosberg v Hamilton
2010 Vettel v Webber

I think that's a rhetorical question btw Sean. Oscar has repeatedly shared that team harmony is important to him, and, sure, a few things have gone against him, but not to the point where he should be considering his future with McLaren. I do think he will feel more justified, especially after the WCC has been confirmed, in taking a firmer hand in the battle, whatever that may look like.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

He then slightly condescended their decision by saying that it was "well meaning", clearly implying that they meant well but got it wrong. I suspect he thinks the team gave Lando the benefit of the doubt but he suspects Lando did it intentionally.

What is it that you think Lando did on purpose? Slid wide after hitting Max from behind?

Was Lando at fault? Yes. But I highly doubt he intentionally risked breaking his own front wing or putting either car out.

[chrisc90]

Wha drivers say in the media, driven highly by PR could very well be a different picture to what gets painted for the world to see.

[Ben1980]

Wha drivers say in the media, driven highly by PR could very well be a different picture to what gets painted for the world to see.

Post race interviews are generally PR fluff. Not to be taken that seriously

In race communications are usually heat of the moment spouting, usually also not to be taken seriously

[basti313]

What is it that you think Lando did on purpose? Slid wide after hitting Max from behind?

He was already wide before hitting Max. He took a dive on Oscar, of course this was "on purpose". Or does it look like he protected P3 and P4 together with his teammate leaving his teammate happily in P3?

Was Lando at fault? Yes.

I think Oscar was at fault. Lando was aggressive, not at fault and succeeded.
It was Oscar who misjudged the situation and left the door wide, wide open. Without his moves to the side exit T1 and T2, he would not have been in the dirt and Lando would never have been alongside to slide into him.

[aragorn123]

this just in...first part is kind non Mclaren but second part is...

1 CRISIS AT FERRARI.
Italian media reports that chaos is currently engulfing the Scuderia, with technical departments bickering among themselves and Frédéric Vasseur's position as team leader in question...
And Charles Leclerc will leave if there's no title fight in 2026. Dark times again.

2 Swiss newspaper Blick reports that Oscar Piastri's management has opened talks with Ferrari.

The Scuderia reportedly initiated the talks in light of Leclerc's potential departure in 2027.

Insiders report that Ferrari's top management is unhappy with Charles' criticism of the team.

At the same time, the Monegasque driver's management is no longer prepared to wait for a championship-winning car from Ferrari if Leclerc fails in 2026.

[mwillems]

He then slightly condescended their decision by saying that it was "well meaning", clearly implying that they meant well but got it wrong. I suspect he thinks the team gave Lando the benefit of the doubt but he suspects Lando did it intentionally.

What is it that you think Lando did on purpose? Slid wide after hitting Max from behind?

Was Lando at fault? Yes. But I highly doubt he intentionally risked breaking his own front wing or putting either car out.

I didnt say Lando did anything on.purpose. I said Oscar might think he knew what he was doing.