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Mate , Max is living rent free in your head. You ask all of us who have genuine points to make, to 'lay off the Max glazing' and 1 out of 4 posts from you are about Max. Drivers make mistakes when they go beyond the car's limit and also when they make braindead decisions in wheel-to-wheel scenarios. Overshooting the cars limit is part of the learning process, and a genuinely 'driveable car' with a wide working window, can be less punishing than an edgy car, when the driver makes mikstakes. Now if you want to dive into the details of this incessant comparison, Max was 18/19 in his 3rd year, and was driving a renault engined sh**box, not an engineering marvel that is the McL39 ; Piastri drove a sh**box car only in his first year. What do you have to say about that ? Stop this year-to-year comparisons, they don't make any sense.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025, 13:34Well it's not like he lost the lead yet. Oscar still has enough time to bounce back and in my opinion he is doing great in his third year and his first title challenge. If you think of it Max has been making mistake after mistake often resulting in crashes with others from 2015 to 2019 and in his first title challenge in 2021 with a better car he almost lost it with crucial mistakes against the better Hamilton. So ok if he gets it congratulations to him, if Norris gets it good job on bouncing back. If none of them get it there is always next year. After all Oscar will become a champion sooner or later if he keeps improving dramatically each year.
venkyhere wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025, 13:48Mate , Max is living rent free in your head. You ask all of us who have genuine points to make, to 'lay off the Max glazing' and 1 out of 4 posts from you are about Max. Drivers make mistakes when they go beyond the car's limit and also when they make braindead decisions in wheel-to-wheel scenarios. Overshooting the cars limit is part of the learning process, and a genuinely 'driveable car' with a wide working window, can be less punishing than an edgy car, when the driver makes mikstakes. Now if you want to dive into the details of this incessant comparison, Max was 18/19 in his 3rd year, and was driving a renault engined sh**box, not an engineering marvel that is the McL39 ; Piastri drove a sh**box car only in his first year. What do you have to say about that ? Stop this year-to-year comparisons, they don't make any sense.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025, 13:34Well it's not like he lost the lead yet. Oscar still has enough time to bounce back and in my opinion he is doing great in his third year and his first title challenge. If you think of it Max has been making mistake after mistake often resulting in crashes with others from 2015 to 2019 and in his first title challenge in 2021 with a better car he almost lost it with crucial mistakes against the better Hamilton. So ok if he gets it congratulations to him, if Norris gets it good job on bouncing back. If none of them get it there is always next year. After all Oscar will become a champion sooner or later if he keeps improving dramatically each year.
Cool off. It's racing, there is something called 'luck' that's needed alongwith talent, where a driver gets a genuine title-winning car to drive. F1 drivers themselves acknowledge 'being at the right place at the right time' as one of the most important factors in their career. And Piastri has been one of the luckiest drivers on the current grid, in terms of getting a championship winning car, right from the starting years of his career.
this was a good one. But totally agree with this post. You can not compare apples with pears, like Lando's or Max first years cars in Formula 1 with this year MCL39. MCL39 had, until Zandvoord, 2+1 main characteristics:On one hand I agree, as in: it is better to have a fast car to get thrown into the mix earlier. But on the other hand I think that it also can have detriment effects if you have a great car from the beginning of your career, e.g. the car can compensate for flaws in your skillset which could be better ironed out earlier in your career, you have more pressure to actually show performance (which can also help speeding up the growth) or you don't get to see the differences between bad and really good cars which could stunt your ability to develop a car alongside your engineers when the car isn't as good as before.
I agree.SilviuAgo wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025, 12:30Agree with this, Oscar was so focused on Lando and not to lose to him (doesn't matter that we speak about 1 point or 3 points or 10) than now is facing a much worst situation. I don't blame Oscar, maybe if was vice-versa was the same, but Lando has the "advantage" of fighting Max also in 2024 and has another approach to this fights.
Cause is still some hours to the race let put an if: Oscar keeps his head in the Sprint and stay P3. And everything finished as expected. The outcome? -1p to Lando and -2p to Max.
Quali: Max P1, Lando P2 and Oscar P3 (although I saw also quali's where Lando started better and Oscar was ahead in the end, but just to play safe). In the race same finish order. So another -3p to Lando and -10p to Max.
Total of the weekend? -4p to Lando and -12p to Max. Reasonable I would say, no?
Now, how can be?
Sprint: -0p to Lando and -8p to Max.
Race (if the order of the quali remain): -10p to Lando and another -17p to Max.
Total of the weekend? -10p to Lando and -25p to Max. Not good ahh?
So this is why I said yesterday that to win a championship to be fast is not enough. You have to be also smart. And unfortunately for him, Oscar yesterday wasn't. I stay with my opinion that in T1 he should have followed Lando's line, and not to try to re-cut on inside where not only the door was wide open but already there were 2 cars there.
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He said that yesterday at the start of Q
Yup, but I am glad he cool down and looked also around Nico. And admitted something we saw straight away, although also us have Mclaren eyes... one eye is Oscar and one Lando
It currently hasn’t brought any success when you consider the outcomes of yesterdays competitive sessions… 