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[AR3-GP]

Max knows he can win from P1 P2 or P3 and lando is expert at bottling a pole at T1..

This is optimistic...

[AR3-GP]

Max should tow Yuki into Q3, then Yuki can return the favor.

[f1isgood]

Max knows he can win from P1 P2 or P3 and lando is expert at bottling a pole at T1..

When was the last time Lando bottled pole this year? I genuinely can't seem to recollect.

[f1isgood]

Max should tow Yuki into Q3, then Yuki can return the favor.

The only way.

[Valeo]

I can't believe McLaren won't be in trouble If they have to run in traffic tomorrow. Is their cooling system so much better than everything the other 9 teams could come up with, even the works team?

[Vettel165]

Maybe they sacrificed some one-lap speed for better race pace. Starting one or two places behind Lando is not a bad thing, the slipstream is massive into T1. What I am saying, its better to start P2, P3 and then having better race pace, then to just get pole and having bad race pace. Its a compromise.

Listen to this interview by Max from yesterday. He said exacly the same thing.

Today is the reverse of yesterday. Today they are competitive on the medium tire short runs, but nowhere on the softs. Yesterday was the opposite.

Indeed, very strange. Also Max set 3 time laps on his soft run at the end, improving on his last lap. And at the same time staying out much longer than everyone else.

[f1isgood]

I can't believe McLaren won't be in trouble If they have to run in traffic tomorrow. Is their cooling system so much better than everything the other 9 teams could come up with, even the works team?

I mean, the engines were fixed these regulations. So works team effectively had no advantage with regard to packaging. McLaren have done the best job at everything. Their car is still the only one that works in all conditions all tracks.

[AR3-GP]

This looks very weird.

[Vettel165]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

Now please look for how many laps did Norris and Verstappen have fuel. I dont have the data.

[AR3-GP]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

Now please look for how many laps did Norris and Verstappen have fuel. I dont have the data.

The timing says Lando did 8 laps and Max did 11 but then we don't know if teams fuel exactly for these stints or they over fuel. We can just say Norris had at least 8 laps of fuel.

[f1isgood]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

In what sense? In that Max only loses a tenth on the long straight?

[AR3-GP]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

In what sense? In that Max only loses a tenth on the long straight?

Yes the top speeds are too low into T1, into T4, and into T12.

[Vettel165]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

Now please look for how many laps did Norris and Verstappen have fuel. I dont have the data.

The timing says Lando did 8 laps and Max did 11 but then we don't know if teams fuel exactly for these stints or they over fuel. We can just say Norris had at least 8 laps of fuel.

Thank you. One member from f1 autosport forum managed to observe Max while being onboard with him.

"Just re-watched the run on board on F1TV, so he goes out, does an out lap, fast lap, 2 slow laps, quick lap, and after is told to do 2 more slow laps (as the session winds down to get to the practice start). He says no grip but on both runs the car is pretty nailed and he loses a ton of time in S1, even to Tsunoda". "Lower engine mode/ higher fuel"

[Emag]

This looks very weird.

https://i.postimg.cc/dt8j1rzV/image.png

In what sense? In that Max only loses a tenth on the long straight?

Yes the top speeds are too low into T1, into T4, and into T12.

Seems like for the delta there's only 86% confidence.

I can tell there's a significant offset on the telemetry data. Just checked to confirm and GPTempo has the same problem although more pronounced. I have worked with these stuff for so long, I can just tell by eye when something is off.

In any case, even if you can't tell visually that there's some data quality problem from the telemetry, then just from what makes most sense, I doubt Lando can gain that much on the braking of T1. So basically, either Lando's or Max's trace for those laps has some sampling issues (i.e corrupt data). But it only seems to be a problem for the first sector, the rest seems reasonable enough.

For the first bit, I think about 1 tenth more should be lost during the straight itself and less during the next 3 corners.

[AR3-GP]

In what sense? In that Max only loses a tenth on the long straight?

Yes the top speeds are too low into T1, into T4, and into T12.

Seems like for the delta there's only 86% confidence.

I can tell there's a significant offset on the telemetry data. Just checked to confirm and GPTempo has the same problem although more pronounced. I have worked with these stuff for so long, I can just tell by eye when something is off.

In any case, even if you can't tell visually that there's some data quality problem from the telemetry, then just from what makes most sense, I doubt Lando can gain that much on the braking of T1. So basically, either Lando's or Max's trace for those laps has some sampling issues (i.e corrupt data). But it only seems to be a problem for the first sector, the rest seems reasonable enough.

For the first bit, I think about 1 tenth more should be lost during the straight itself and less during the next 3 corners.

For that I don't even consider the delta. I just look at the speed traces. Unless somehow that data is also wrong, it's strange how Verstappen is now 4km/h down on the front straight and missing a bit of top end on the others. It is probably cooling and engine modes, but strange nonetheless.