2025 McLaren F1 Team

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FittingMechanics wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 08:34
mwillems wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 06:32
Even if Lando loses P1 at the start, I expect he'll get it back soon enough if the car continues with its history of being better innthe race.

Great job by Lando.
They showed a comparison of laps between Norris and Leclerc. It looked as if Norris is faster in S3, especially with coming onto the straight. Should be good for overtaking.
Max is the surprise, for me. But i'd got the impression that Mclarens tyre life advantage had been eroded.

Happy to be wrong on this one :D
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Lando's lap in Mexico reminds me of Lando-MCL38 relathionship =D>


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Oscar doesn't lose a couple of mili seconds every corner. Almost 40% of the gap is made in T3 alone. From the onboard of Lando's lap, honestly the T3 was just perfect. The car seems to be gliding over the kerb as it is not even there. No problems with the traction out of it either. Leclerc got close, but he did so while pushing the entries. He got a wobble out of the exit (as you would expect) so ended up half a tenth behind Lando by the end of S1.

As for the rest, he has been 1.5-2 tenths weak to Lando in S2 the whole weekend, so it's not exactly surprising. Lando just completely nailed S3 on his final run and that's where the rest of the gap comes from. Zero wheelspin as far as I could see on the onboard. Maybe a tiny bit out of T16, but that was actually beneficiary since it pulled the car to point a little bit to the right and shortened the distance to the finish line.
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The race start from 2024. Sainz did an ok job, if you can not keep P1 to T1 at least position your car for a P2.

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2024- ... 9044755057

The start from 2023 when Perez tried to be a hero and hit Leclerc who started from pole:

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2023- ... 2817478487

And start from 2022 when Max was the only poleman keeping P1:
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2022- ... 7030320004

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SilviuAgo wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 11:58
The race start from 2024. Sainz did an ok job, if you can not keep P1 to T1 at least position your car for a P2.

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2024- ... 9044755057

The start from 2023 when Perez tried to be a hero and hit Leclerc who started from pole:

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2023- ... 2817478487

And start from 2022 when Max was the only poleman keeping P1:
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2022- ... 7030320004
Basically key is to go to the inside and push the other car off.

Easy to do with nothing to lose. Hard for Norris in this situation.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 12:08
SilviuAgo wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 11:58
The race start from 2024. Sainz did an ok job, if you can not keep P1 to T1 at least position your car for a P2.

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2024- ... 9044755057

The start from 2023 when Perez tried to be a hero and hit Leclerc who started from pole:

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2023- ... 2817478487

And start from 2022 when Max was the only poleman keeping P1:
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2022- ... 7030320004
Basically key is to go to the inside and push the other car off.

Easy to do with nothing to lose. Hard for Norris in this situation.
Finger crossed :))))

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The sudden loss of speed that Piastri is experiencing remainds me of 2007 when same thing happened to Alonso.
Years after all Hamilton fans remember is how rookie beat champion,when in fact it was all orchestrated by English team.
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Piastri had similar pace all over the place last year. Won in Baku but nowhere in many races. Norris easily dominated him in most.

If anything it was strange that he managed to build a gap on Norris.

Maybe the car was more benign and as they lost the gap they need to use setups that are more on the edge.

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GoranF1 wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 12:25
The sudden loss of speed that Piastri is experiencing remainds me of 2007 when same thing happened to Alonso.
Years after all Hamilton fans remember is how rookie beat champion,when in fact it was all orchestrated by English team.
You know very well that was never the case. Both 2007 teammates were pretty much equal all year.

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GoranF1 wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 12:25
The sudden loss of speed that Piastri is experiencing remainds me of 2007 when same thing happened to Alonso.
Years after all Hamilton fans remember is how rookie beat champion,when in fact it was all orchestrated by English team.
And Oscar is stupid not to say a thing about it? hard to believe. Weber will make a huge scandal if something like this happen to Oscar. So no mate, just too slow on this kind of track/conditions.

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GoranF1 wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 12:25
The sudden loss of speed that Piastri is experiencing remainds me of 2007 when same thing happened to Alonso.
Years after all Hamilton fans remember is how rookie beat champion,when in fact it was all orchestrated by English team.
Norris could be far in front of Piastri if he hadn't had the engine blown in Zandvoort and the crash in Canada where Piastri didn't leave space to Lando

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The xenophobia towards anything British in F1 is getting ridiculous now. It's all just gaslighting and Mandela effect nonsense. I'm team before driver, but I can't lie, a Lando title win would taste so sweet.

I do think Oscar is very much still in contention, regardless of today's result. As much as we can point to him underperforming now, Lando has arguably underperformed most of the season, so the swing for both drivers is why we're seeing such a gap between them now. Back to my original point; Lando isn't getting the credit he deserves. Oscar will bounce back, zero doubts.

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GoranF1 wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 12:25
The sudden loss of speed that Piastri is experiencing remainds me of 2007 when same thing happened to Alonso.
Years after all Hamilton fans remember is how rookie beat champion,when in fact it was all orchestrated by English team.
Yup. I agree. I supposed to say that in forum... but you did it. It may be the team who is playing with Oscar. I don't think it can happen all of sudden.

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The conspiracy theorists are quite laughable. If McLaren were doing anything of the sort, Webber would be waging such a fierce PR war we’d be hearing nothing of it.

I mean look how the whole Renault thing went down with Piastri, there’s no way he would stand for it.