Same goes for Leclerc, but it's just stats. They're both bloody good drivers and shouldn't be assumed to fail.pantherxxx wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025, 19:28Verstappen's best chance is Norris. Norris has taken 14 pole positions in his career but turned only 5 of them into victories. A conversion rate of just about 35%.
I'd rather they just have tried to keep everything closed, qualify better and rely on max for P1 on the run to T1. Gamble on clean air. Shame
We've seen last year on this track this isn't guaranteed to work if the car is not up to scratch. Max himself said after FP2:
So they probably didn't have a choice.“as soon as you go on to a sustainable run the car goes hot and we end up nowhere, which is tough”.
I had this thought last night. They opened the cooling even more after Friday. This poisons the aero. That's part of why Mclaren is so far ahead. They are able to extract much more heat with much less air so they preserve more downforce.

It is not an aero problem. Max loses 3 tenth in turn 2 and 3 plus 2 tenth in the stadium. The rest of the lap is equal or better than Norris. It is the same old problem, the bumps/curbs.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/Whats ... /10771578/Finally, a third factor must be mentioned: ride height. Verstappen struggled particularly in the second sector, mainly through Turn 9, where he had several moments. Asked what was going wrong in the few high-speed corners of the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, Verstappen replied: “Well, watch the onboard, turn up the volume, and you'll hear what's happening there.”
Verstappen was referring to the Red Bull car bottoming out in Turn 9. According to Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko it's the result of going a bit too extreme with the ride height choice this weekend. “The ride height is crucial, but in the middle sector we were perhaps a little over the limit,” admitted the 82-year-old Austrian.
They have that bad stat because they fought against Verstappen who usually had better race pace.ME4ME wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025, 20:07Same goes for Leclerc, but it's just stats. They're both bloody good drivers and shouldn't be assumed to fail.pantherxxx wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025, 19:28Verstappen's best chance is Norris. Norris has taken 14 pole positions in his career but turned only 5 of them into victories. A conversion rate of just about 35%.
If Red Bull and Verstappen want to win this WDC they'll just have to do better rather than hoping on others' mistakes.
Talking of mistakes, turn1 is going to be intense. Two hungry Ferrari's with nothing to loose hunting a Mclaren while Verstappen is in a Mercedes sandwhich. It's set up for disasterWill be shocked if nothing happens.