2025 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Oct 24 - 26

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I am not sure what's it with Verstappen penalty? He was ahead at the Apex in the Hamilton incident and kept all wheels on track. Isn't this what 2025 driver guidelines propose?

Every other incident there was nothing to see as he gave back positions.
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Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:43
Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:39
I realised right away that Leclerc should´ve been penalised for his cheeky off track. Max should have also been penalised for that divebomb. Like always, F1 stewards are useless.

On another note, Oscar should be very happy, he´s lucky not to be 19 points behind right now
Penalized Verstappen for what? He gave back the positions...
There’s no penalty for that anyways in today’s regulations. He sent it, had the front tyre well ahead of the mirror by the apex, and kept his car within track limits on the exit. Those are the rules the drivers wanted.

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https://x.com/CASKA50036909/status/1982 ... 0&ref_url=

Easily see how may places vestappen made. If he he braked and made that corner he would easily be 9th being generous. The stewards are useless,

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amritc1 wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:47
https://x.com/CASKA50036909/status/1982 ... 0&ref_url=

Easily see how may places vestappen made. If he he braked and made that corner he would easily be 9th being generous. The stewards are useless,
He’s clearly 4th before the braking zone and stays 4th. Make an effort.

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Badger wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:46
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:43
Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:39
I realised right away that Leclerc should´ve been penalised for his cheeky off track. Max should have also been penalised for that divebomb. Like always, F1 stewards are useless.

On another note, Oscar should be very happy, he´s lucky not to be 19 points behind right now
Penalized Verstappen for what? He gave back the positions...
There’s no penalty for that anyways in today’s regulations. He sent it, had the front tyre well ahead of the mirror by the apex, and kept his car within track limits on the exit. Those are the rules the drivers wanted.
Its not the first time Ive seen this happen and it has never been penalised anyway. Its entirely different from what Leclerc did as well!

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Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:43
Penalized Verstappen for what? He gave back the positions...
The divebomb on LH, he was way too far behind(they even banged side by side, Max´s fault this time). I wasn´t talking about the start

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amritc1 wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:47
https://x.com/CASKA50036909/status/1982 ... 0&ref_url=

Easily see how may places vestappen made. If he he braked and made that corner he would easily be 9th being generous. The stewards are useless,
That is total nonsense :wtf:

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Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:50
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:43
Penalized Verstappen for what? He gave back the positions...
The divebomb on LH, he was way too far behind(they even banged side by side, Max´s fault this time). I wasn´t talking about the start
Ah okay. Not sure I agree on that either, but that is at least debatable. If I was a stewards I'd be happy to leave it as hard racing, no penalty for either as long as if Hamilton loses his time gained after cutting (just lift a little and let Verstappen come closer).

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Badger wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:46
There’s no penalty for that anyways in today’s regulations. He sent it, had the front tyre well ahead of the mirror by the apex, and kept his car within track limits on the exit. Those are the rules the drivers wanted.
Well, if the rules are like that, then ok. I just don´t like the look of it. Maybe if he didn´t have LH´s car there on the outside holding him, he would have gone off track.

On another note, I just heard that Mclaren is sabotaging Piastri so much that they even managed to put magnets into his car so that he would be attracted to Baku´s armco on QLF and race. Poor Oscar.....

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Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:54
Badger wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:46
There’s no penalty for that anyways in today’s regulations. He sent it, had the front tyre well ahead of the mirror by the apex, and kept his car within track limits on the exit. Those are the rules the drivers wanted.
Well, if the rules are like that, then ok. I just don´t like the look of it. Maybe if he didn´t have LH´s car there on the outside holding him, he would have gone off track.

On another note, I just heard that Mclaren is sabotaging Piastri so much that they even managed to put magnets into his car so that he would be attracted to Baku´s armco on QLF and race. Poor Oscar.....
The drivers asked for “karting rules” which essentially means that if you dive up the inside and your front tyre is alongside or ahead of the defending driver’s mirror, you have the right to the corner on the exit (provided you stay within track limits). This does promote dives, so you get dives.

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Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:54
Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:50
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:43
Penalized Verstappen for what? He gave back the positions...
The divebomb on LH, he was way too far behind(they even banged side by side, Max´s fault this time). I wasn´t talking about the start
Ah okay. Not sure I agree on that either, but that is at least debatable. If I was a stewards I'd be happy to leave it as hard racing, no penalty for either as long as if Hamilton loses his time gained after cutting (just lift a little and let Verstappen come closer).
Not wearing tinted glasses but 10 seconds. Verstaptic was off at turn 1 and gained massive advantage, he needed to at least give back 5-6 places as he was no way going to make make the corner ( open your eyes). Then drove another driver off track by drive combining as he hats way always. So no way was that a 10 sec penalty.
How many times has Verstappen done that and got 5 second penalty. Come on people why we
F1 Turin into a drama.

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amritc1 wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 01:04
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:54
Artur Craft wrote:
27 Oct 2025, 00:50

The divebomb on LH, he was way too far behind(they even banged side by side, Max´s fault this time). I wasn´t talking about the start
Ah okay. Not sure I agree on that either, but that is at least debatable. If I was a stewards I'd be happy to leave it as hard racing, no penalty for either as long as if Hamilton loses his time gained after cutting (just lift a little and let Verstappen come closer).
Not wearing tinted glasses but 10 seconds. Verstaptic was off at turn 1 and gained massive advantage, he needed to at least give back 5-6 places as he was no way going to make make the corner ( open your eyes). Then drove another driver off track by drive combining as he hats way always. So no way was that a 10 sec penalty.
How many times has Verstappen done that and got 5 second penalty. Come on people why we
F1 Turin into a drama.
Quite the rant but you're wrong and need to actually go and read up rules.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Virtual safety car was HORSE S#%T!!!!! Max would have passed Charles on the last lap. We have been robbed. That is complete crap they pulled a VSC. There was no reason for it. My god.
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The elephant in the room is the fact that Max skipped not one, not two, but THREE corners... I mean, where do we draw the proverbial line? What if Silverstone wasn't built-in and someone was pushed off in T4 (The Loop), cut across to T14 (Chapel), then patiently waited for the car that pushed him off to let him through, literally skipping half a lap in let's say difficult conditions, where he could've been overtaken by many other cars?

Charles also skipped two corners instead of putting on with the trial that is the first few turns of every Mexican GP...

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Max also cut the corner after banging wheels with lewis. Max didnt give lewis his position back. Then lewis couldnt make the corner and cut it as well. Max Bearman and Russel tried overtaking each other and lost time . Lewis should have backed off more for sure.
If lewis gets a penalty, then Max should have got one as well. He banged wheels made a divebomb, cut the corner and didnt give his position back.
Race start, leclerc and Max not receiving penalty unbelievable.
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