2025 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Oct 24 - 26

[Badger]

Max also cut the corner after banging wheels with lewis. Max didnt give lewis his position back. Then lewis couldnt make the corner and cut it as well. Max Bearman and Russel tried overtaking each other and lost time . Lewis should have backed off more for sure.
If lewis gets a penalty, then Max should have got one as well. He banged wheels made a divebomb, cut the corner and didnt give his position back.
Race start, leclerc and Max not receiving penalty unbelievable.
Watching Formula 1 for 20 years , never seen a governing body FIa so corrupted

Kind of hard to “give a position back” when the guy you are racing has already cut the next corner, taken the position, and gained like three seconds in the process. I’m sure if Hamilton had actually stayed behind that could have been a discussion for the stewards, but he didn’t. As for T1 there’s no issue cutting the track if you have to, but you shouldn’t gain positions from it. Leclerc clearly went from 3rd to 2nd.

[ismail1991]

Max also cut the corner after banging wheels with lewis. Max didnt give lewis his position back. Then lewis couldnt make the corner and cut it as well. Max Bearman and Russel tried overtaking each other and lost time . Lewis should have backed off more for sure.
If lewis gets a penalty, then Max should have got one as well. He banged wheels made a divebomb, cut the corner and didnt give his position back.
Race start, leclerc and Max not receiving penalty unbelievable.
Watching Formula 1 for 20 years , never seen a governing body FIa so corrupted

Kind of hard to “give a position back” when the guy you are racing has already cut the next corner, taken the position, and gained like three seconds in the process. I’m sure if Hamilton had actually stayed behind that could have been a discussion for the stewards, but he didn’t. As for T1 there’s no issue cutting the track if you have to, but you shouldn’t gain positions from it. Leclerc clearly went from 3rd to 2nd.

Making a dive bomb, banging wheels, forcing another car off track , then cutting the corner, staying in the front. I think this would be 20 seconds penalty for Lewis Hamilton, but for Max Verstappen “no further action”

[Badger]

Max also cut the corner after banging wheels with lewis. Max didnt give lewis his position back. Then lewis couldnt make the corner and cut it as well. Max Bearman and Russel tried overtaking each other and lost time . Lewis should have backed off more for sure.
If lewis gets a penalty, then Max should have got one as well. He banged wheels made a divebomb, cut the corner and didnt give his position back.
Race start, leclerc and Max not receiving penalty unbelievable.
Watching Formula 1 for 20 years , never seen a governing body FIa so corrupted

Kind of hard to “give a position back” when the guy you are racing has already cut the next corner, taken the position, and gained like three seconds in the process. I’m sure if Hamilton had actually stayed behind that could have been a discussion for the stewards, but he didn’t. As for T1 there’s no issue cutting the track if you have to, but you shouldn’t gain positions from it. Leclerc clearly went from 3rd to 2nd.

Making a dive bomb, banging wheels, forcing another car off track , then cutting the corner, staying in the front. I think this would be 20 seconds penalty for Lewis Hamilton, but for Max Verstappen “no further action”

What’s the point of passing judgement when you clearly don’t know the rules of engagement? Max’s move was on. What happened after was messy but Lewis sealed his fate when he took the position and gained a bunch of time off the track.

[ismail1991]

Kind of hard to “give a position back” when the guy you are racing has already cut the next corner, taken the position, and gained like three seconds in the process. I’m sure if Hamilton had actually stayed behind that could have been a discussion for the stewards, but he didn’t. As for T1 there’s no issue cutting the track if you have to, but you shouldn’t gain positions from it. Leclerc clearly went from 3rd to 2nd.

Making a dive bomb, banging wheels, forcing another car off track , then cutting the corner, staying in the front. I think this would be 20 seconds penalty for Lewis Hamilton, but for Max Verstappen “no further action”

What’s the point of passing judgement when you clearly don’t know the rules of engagement? Max’s move was on. What happened after was messy but Lewis sealed his fate when he took the position and gained a bunch of time off the track.

Firstly, this a forum I can do my judgement freely. I think i know the rules enough. For me Max couldnt slow down the car and pushed Lewis off track. This is my judgement. You dont have to agree. I dont agree with your judgement as well

[AR3-GP]

Hamilton did an Abu Dhabi '21. This time the stewards weren't falling for it. The sport has come a long way.

[ismail1991]

Hamilton did an Abu Dhabi '21. This time the stewards weren't falling for it. The sport has come a long way.

In Abu Dhabi ‘21, stewards felt for somebody else not Hamilton mate

[Luscion]

Alonso - "But I think a couple of cars went just straight in turn two and three and then they rejoined like three or four cars in front of me. So it’s a little bit unfair, I would say.

“It’s the second time in a row that on the first lap in the first corner, the FIA is looking to the other side. So, lesson learned."

[Badger]

Making a dive bomb, banging wheels, forcing another car off track , then cutting the corner, staying in the front. I think this would be 20 seconds penalty for Lewis Hamilton, but for Max Verstappen “no further action”

What’s the point of passing judgement when you clearly don’t know the rules of engagement? Max’s move was on. What happened after was messy but Lewis sealed his fate when he took the position and gained a bunch of time off the track.

Firstly, this a forum I can do my judgement freely. I think i know the rules enough. For me Max couldnt slow down the car and pushed Lewis off track. This is my judgement. You dont have to agree. I dont agree with your judgement as well

You can judge freely, but the drivers will go by the rules and not some random person’s judgement on the internet. According to the rules, Max had the right to the corner, which means he didn’t have to leave space for Hamilton. The stewards validated as much, there’s an article about it on The-Race should you be interested in the facts.

[ismail1991]

What’s the point of passing judgement when you clearly don’t know the rules of engagement? Max’s move was on. What happened after was messy but Lewis sealed his fate when he took the position and gained a bunch of time off the track.

Firstly, this a forum I can do my judgement freely. I think i know the rules enough. For me Max couldnt slow down the car and pushed Lewis off track. This is my judgement. You dont have to agree. I dont agree with your judgement as well

You can judge freely, but the drivers will go by the rules and not some random person’s judgement on the internet. According to the rules, Max had the right to the corner, which means he didn’t have to leave space for Hamilton. The stewards validated as much, there’s an article about it on The-Race should you be interested in the facts.

I have seen that article. I am sure rules say always you need to leave a car space, in that case it wasnt given. And I noticed in the article it was Hamilton who was investigated for the collision, not Max which is funny for me. Lewis could have had a broken suspension or front wing from the impact Max made. Then lewis would be out of the race and would the stewards say it is a racing incident again. I know the rules mate, dont try to teach them to me. I know how flexible and subjective they are. I know how much it depends on which drivers are involved and which referees are working that race

[nitrotech]

Mexico needs gravels on the first 4 turns.

[purestpurist]

Hamilton did an Abu Dhabi '21. This time the stewards weren't falling for it. The sport has come a long way.

In Abu Dhabi ‘21, stewards felt for somebody else not Hamilton mate

No they literally tried to not restart the race to cover for Mercedes' pit blunder but Masi refused to go along with it. If he had done what tptb wanted he wouldn't have lost his job

[zeph]

Hamilton did an Abu Dhabi '21. This time the stewards weren't falling for it. The sport has come a long way.

In Abu Dhabi ‘21, stewards felt for somebody else not Hamilton mate

No they literally tried to not restart the race to cover for Mercedes' pit blunder but Masi refused to go along with it. If he had done what tptb wanted he wouldn't have lost his job

Wow, this is such an alternate reality take on what happened. Literally the opposite of reality.

F1 supremos didn't want to finish the race (and decide the championship) behind the SC so they literally BROKE their own rules to facilitate a last-lap showdown between the reigning champ on old tires and the young challenger on a fresh set.

This is not contested. That is what happened.

[basti313]

This is not contested. That is what happened.

So what actually happend is a not given penalty for Leclerc because that is intra team...and the discussion went back to tinfoil hats from AD21?

[Badger]

Firstly, this a forum I can do my judgement freely. I think i know the rules enough. For me Max couldnt slow down the car and pushed Lewis off track. This is my judgement. You dont have to agree. I dont agree with your judgement as well

You can judge freely, but the drivers will go by the rules and not some random person’s judgement on the internet. According to the rules, Max had the right to the corner, which means he didn’t have to leave space for Hamilton. The stewards validated as much, there’s an article about it on The-Race should you be interested in the facts.

I have seen that article. I am sure rules say always you need to leave a car space, in that case it wasnt given. And I noticed in the article it was Hamilton who was investigated for the collision, not Max which is funny for me. Lewis could have had a broken suspension or front wing from the impact Max made. Then lewis would be out of the race and would the stewards say it is a racing incident again. I know the rules mate, dont try to teach them to me. I know how flexible and subjective they are. I know how much it depends on which drivers are involved and which referees are working that race

No That’s what Alonso said like 13 years ago trying to give Rosberg a penalty. But that’s not what the rules state. This is what I mean when I say what is the point of judging if you don’t know the rules? It just becomes a reflection of your feelings instead of an analysis of the facts. As soon as Max was fully alongside on the apex it became his corner and he is no longer required to give space on the exit, as per the drivers’ wishes, and just like the stewards describe in the article.

[Jambier]

Very close constructor championship now for second.