2025 McLaren F1 Team

[FittingMechanics]

They can fake it once.

Here McLaren first said box to overtake (which means do opposite of car ahead) but then they changes it to box box, meaning box regardless of car ahead.

Not sure why, maybe he was being undercut or realized he was losing too much time on mediums.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

When was the last time McLaren got upgrades? Piastri says he now has to drive the car a completely different way, and Norris won by the biggest margin of the season: 30 seconds. Odd.

[f1isgood]

When was the last time McLaren got upgrades? Piastri says he now has to drive the car a completely different way, and Norris won by the biggest margin of the season: 30 seconds. Odd.

Spa I think.

[Jambier]

I think championship is done now for PIA.

He got a 2010 Webber season, and he will probably miss his only opportunity to be world champion.

Also, it shows that Max is still a threat but realistically not.

Of course NOR needs to avoid crashes but now he is on the golden road to the title

[basti313]

They can fake it once.

Here McLaren first said box to overtake (which means do opposite of car ahead) but then they changes it to box box, meaning box regardless of car ahead.

Not sure why, maybe he was being undercut or realized he was losing too much time on mediums.

Well, I think "box to overtake" is a different animal. They now showed it four times this season and always faked, no matter what the car ahead is doing. It is an intentional fake, never intended to stop. By the rule this is a slam dunk penalty, but not really to judge.
I wonder which tires they bring out...is it even the correct set? McLaren is usually very careful with things, I wonder if they would drop the tire temp of the actual set to use on these fake stops.

[Mcl_G10]

Is the following really that far fetched?

Brazil - Max 25pt. Lando 18pt
Vegas- Max 25pt. Lando 12pt
Qatar- Max 25pt. Lando 18pt
Abu - Max 25pt. Lando 18pt

No sprints included thats a 34 at swing for max with 36pts being the gap. Its not over for me.
Lando needs 1 more win and that won't be easy as redbull will be very strong for the remainder plus Max could get nasty and start trying to engineer dnf's by forcing off etc.

[Emag]

I said yesterday too, but with hindsight, I still don’t think they should have pit Oscar a second time.

Max would have gone through no doubt, but I don’t think Ollie would have caught and overtaken him for 4th.

[Ben1980]

I said yesterday too, but with hindsight, I still don’t think they should have pit Oscar a second time.

Max would have gone through no doubt, but I don’t think Ollie would have caught and overtaken him for 4th.

But Ollie doesnt stop if Oscar doesnt stop, neither does Russell, maybe not Kimi, as Mclaren made it obvious.

Oscars struggles to get past a Merc really gave little other options.

[selvam_e2002]

If Mclaren playing with Oscar then they will pay the prize in coming race. RB will be strong on the remaining race. Mclaren need two drivers to support each other to win the race agains Max with 3 wing man. RB can be do anything to win Max. If Mclaren loose this year, it is on the team.

[proteus]

I said yesterday too, but with hindsight, I still don’t think they should have pit Oscar a second time.

Max would have gone through no doubt, but I don’t think Ollie would have caught and overtaken him for 4th.

But Ollie doesnt stop if Oscar doesnt stop, neither does Russell, maybe not Kimi, as Mclaren made it obvious.

Oscars struggles to get past a Merc really gave little other options.

The car has very small gain with DRS and slipstream. They manage arround .4 gain on a straight. Merc of Russell did .5 - .6+ quite easily. So everytime Oscar was .6 or more behind, it was impossible to overtake. Norris had same issues before. In the clear air the car simply flies. But it is all in vain if any of the drivers start at the back of the leading pack.

[littlebigcat]

McLaren don’t need to beat Verstappen, they have already won.

At the start of the year Norris struggled with driving a car that had to be set up a certain way to get the maximum out of it. Piastri didn’t. Now it’s the opposite and the only way people can explain it is with convoluted conspiracy theories.

[michl420]

Pitting Piastri was acting not reacting for once and I think it was right, the medium was just not a good race tire.
Some say WDC for Piastri is over. Some say the exact same thing short time ago about Norris.
The same goes for VER. Nothing is won, everything can still be lost.
A last race that counts for everything is rarely a normal race, the mclaren supporters must know this at best.

[FittingMechanics]

They can fake it once.

Here McLaren first said box to overtake (which means do opposite of car ahead) but then they changes it to box box, meaning box regardless of car ahead.

Not sure why, maybe he was being undercut or realized he was losing too much time on mediums.

Well, I think "box to overtake" is a different animal. They now showed it four times this season and always faked, no matter what the car ahead is doing. It is an intentional fake, never intended to stop. By the rule this is a slam dunk penalty, but not really to judge.
I wonder which tires they bring out...is it even the correct set? McLaren is usually very careful with things, I wonder if they would drop the tire temp of the actual set to use on these fake stops.

No, box to overtake is not an intentional fake. It means "box opposite of the car ahead". They did use it a few times to try and dummy the other team into reacting, but they do it all the time without faking as well.

Is the following really that far fetched?

Brazil - Max 25pt. Lando 18pt
Vegas- Max 25pt. Lando 12pt
Qatar- Max 25pt. Lando 18pt
Abu - Max 25pt. Lando 18pt

No sprints included thats a 34 at swing for max with 36pts being the gap. Its not over for me.
Lando needs 1 more win and that won't be easy as redbull will be very strong for the remainder plus Max could get nasty and start trying to engineer dnf's by forcing off etc.

If Max wins the final 4 and our guys can't match him then he deserves to be a champion.

[FittingMechanics]

I said yesterday too, but with hindsight, I still don’t think they should have pit Oscar a second time.

Max would have gone through no doubt, but I don’t think Ollie would have caught and overtaken him for 4th.

Piastri usually doesn't like or do strategies that require a lot of tire preservation. This was his weakness these 3 seasons so I really doubt he would accept or do a strategy that gambled on him making it to the end on those mediums.

Piastri's mistake was losing places at the start and then being too hesitant to overtake Mercedes cars. This put him on this bad strategy as he was running in dirty air for most of the race.

[mwillems]

I said yesterday too, but with hindsight, I still don’t think they should have pit Oscar a second time.

Max would have gone through no doubt, but I don’t think Ollie would have caught and overtaken him for 4th.

I was thinking this during the race. I think there was more scope for a higher finish by staying out, but I was certain he wouldn't have finished lower than he did.