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[AR3-GP]

The problem with a wet qualifying is what happened last year...getting knocked out because of someone else's red flag

[venkyhere]

What is the state of 'engine/battery/turbo pool' ? If the Sunday is going to be dry, will it make sense to bolt on a 'fresh engine' (or 'relatively fresh' rather, in case all 4 are already in circulation) ?

[Sergej]

What is the state of 'engine/battery/turbo pool' ? If the Sunday is going to be dry, will it make sense to bolt on a 'fresh engine' (or 'relatively fresh' rather, in case all 4 are already in circulation) ?

Depends on what your ideal target is: if it's just collect a couple of wins in the next races (which imho it's the realistic target) then yes, if you're looking at the title then no, getting a +10 on the grid means gifting the win to Norris which would close the title "fight", so in this case better go full risk/reward.

[Wouter]

Max and Borteleto tonight 9 PM local time in the podcast Pelas Pistas from Sao Paulo.
It will be in English but you must subscribe. It is a long podcast: 1:06:55.

EDIT: They resceduled it to Thursday evening 9 PM local time.

[Vettel165]

If Max wins sprint and race then the fight is on for the last 3 races. But the problem is nothing else then a win will do to keep the pressure on. Its all or nothing. Close the gap to around 25-28 points with 83 to go, or Mclaren wins this race and the small chance is over… But I salute Max and Red Bull for trying I can say…

[venkyhere]

For me, the key to Sao Paolo (wet or dry), boils down to only two datum points :
- Sector2 : McLaren's comfort zone home territory, and which forms half the interlagos' laptime.
- Turn12 (Juncao) - how much kerb can be ridden, without the car "jumping", enabling earlier throttle application for the mega straight(-ish) run to T1.
If the RB21 can match/exceed the McL39 on these two aspects, irrespective of top-speed (despite the two DRS zones), Max will win. It applies to the SF25/W16 as well, if they can get these two things right.

I had made a similar 'datum point' prediction before Austin, and as we know the reason Max won the race was because of how the car was able to match (or even exceed) the Mclaren in sector3 in Austin :

Max can deal with T1 and T11 U-turns by adjusting his driving, but he is powerless if the car is a walrus through sector3 's long radius prolonged slip angle corners. If the car enables him to be just 0.1 off (or match) the sector3 time of McLaren (whichever driver is quickest) in both Q and R ; he will find a way to win. The whole thing boils down to just this single datum point, for me.

Let me see if I am two time lucky...

[Wouter]

[AR3-GP]

If Max wins sprint and race then the fight is on for the last 3 races. But the problem is nothing else then a win will do to keep the pressure on. Its all or nothing. Close the gap to around 25-28 points with 83 to go, or Mclaren wins this race and the small chance is over… But I salute Max and Red Bull for trying I can say…

I agree. At the summer break they were 100+ points away. Now it's only 36. It's been an incredible run.

I think 36 points with 4 rounds (+2 sprints) to go is still completely open. We think too deterministically. Anything can happen. Max is no stranger to extraordinary moments in Formula 1.

[tinuva]

Max really is just one Mclaren dnf away from being 100% in the title fight. So yes his weekends has to go perfect with some hope of mistakes from the other side.

That said, don't count Max out until its over. He is making this year far more interesting than it would have been otherwise.

[FittingMechanics]

Max really is just one Mclaren dnf away from being 100% in the title fight. So yes his weekends has to go perfect with some hope of mistakes from the other side.

That said, don't count Max out until its over. He is making this year far more interesting than it would have been otherwise.

Max is two McLaren DNFs away because there are two McLaren guys ahead. I know Piastri is not doing that great right now, but I bet he bounces back.

But yes, it's going to be a lot of pressure on them. I think a critical race will be Brazil. If McLaren beat Verstappen here and increase the gap, it's going to be quite unlikely they can fumble it that bad in last 3 races. If Verstappen wins and cuts the gap significantly - then it's pressure on McLaren.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Max really is just one Mclaren dnf away from being 100% in the title fight. So yes his weekends has to go perfect with some hope of mistakes from the other side.

That said, don't count Max out until its over. He is making this year far more interesting than it would have been otherwise.

Technically 2 McLaren DNF's. If only 1 of them has a DNF that arguably that hurts Max, since that would put that McLaren driver further back and allow McLaren to argue in favour of team orders to favour their lead driver.

[f1isgood]

Max really is just one Mclaren dnf away from being 100% in the title fight. So yes his weekends has to go perfect with some hope of mistakes from the other side.

That said, don't count Max out until its over. He is making this year far more interesting than it would have been otherwise.

Technically 2 McLaren DNF's. If only 1 of them has a DNF that arguably that hurts Max, since that would put that McLaren driver further back and allow McLaren to argue in favour of team orders to favour their lead driver.

I think Piastri needs to beat Norris this week. Otherwise its over for him. Unless Oscar can have a resurgence he is in danger of losing 2nd place to Max.

Also Max needs too much luck to go his way. He only becomes a credible threat if both cars take each other out.

Norris is the clear favorite. He's driving like a top driver now.

[Vettel165]

Negative Max is just 1 DNF away from a real chance, but that means from Lando. Piastri is no longer a threat for me.

Or in an another scenario he has to win all 4 to have a shot, but even then it could not be enough. I still give it around 5-7% chance, nothing more- nothing less. Very unlikely we will win the title, but its not impossible...

[Wouter]

I just got the confirmation that Max and Borteleto can be watch for free on YT in the Pelas Pistas podcast at 9 PM Sao Paulo time.

https://www.youtube.com/@PelasPistasPodcast/videos

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This would play into our hands a bit