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BassVirolla wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 10:24
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08 Nov 2025, 09:41
Rikrikrik wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 00:03
Why this car is so inconsistant? some races we are almost on pole or literally out of Q1
not that it's the only reason for Aston, but a sprint quali is ideal for a car which struggles with ride height.

Usually they start aggressive and strong on Friday, and then often lose pace when they raise the car for qualifying. On a sprint weekend, this is not necessary.
Also, Alonso is known for finding the limits very quickly and not improving much between sessions. An untested tyre for everybody plays in the benefit of the quicker to adapt.
That’s why I’m looking forward to next year especially because with a better car Alonso will be a force.

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RedNEO wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 11:08
No I don’t think that’s how this works. People think gaps should just remain static once people have more stabs at the cherry. Alonso only needs one stab to get the best out of the car.
well, just look at the times, and you see he didn't. Losing significant time in general (Q3 lap time was much slower than Q2) may very well be to the car and conditions, of course, but losing that much time to Stroll as well simply means that he didn't maximize his potential. First row was up for grabs yesterday.

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search wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 12:20
RedNEO wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 11:08
No I don’t think that’s how this works. People think gaps should just remain static once people have more stabs at the cherry. Alonso only needs one stab to get the best out of the car.
well, just look at the times, and you see he didn't. Losing significant time in general (Q3 lap time was much slower than Q2) may very well be to the car and conditions, of course, but losing that much time to Stroll as well simply means that he didn't maximize his potential. First row was up for grabs yesterday.
You guys just love to bring the age related nonsense back into things. It’s always Alonso but when other drivers do the same it’s the car. Give it a rest

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AM may have left something on the table by limiting their drivers to only one run and nobody improved on softs in the first run except Norris by a smidge. The tyres were just not better. It’s funny because Alonso still beat Max who had run the soft tyres in FP1. Yes Alonso beat Max in a Aston Martin but the way this guy above me is talking it’s like he expected Alonso to be on pole and beat much faster cars.

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Look at this graphic.. Alonso only had one lap and look how close he got to pole. All the cars ahead had two laps and they only improved on the second attempt. Trying to somehow turn this into a bad result just exposes yourself.

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RedNEO wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 13:02
Look at this graphic.. Alonso only had one lap and look how close he got to pole. All the cars ahead had two laps and they only improved on the second attempt. Trying to somehow turn this into a bad result just exposes yourself.
I never said it was a bad result. It was a good effort from everyone.

But when Alonso maximises his effort, Stroll never comes this close. Which means he yesterday didn't.

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They're probably saving the plank in Q runs for the sprint race itself, that car was very, very low and filing significant amount of material off there :D

Looks absolutely optimum for sprint eventuality, perhaps it will need something of a lift for race Q and full distance.

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Farnborough wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 14:01
They're probably saving the plank in Q runs for the sprint race itself, that car was very, very low and filing significant amount of material off there :D

Looks absolutely optimum for sprint eventuality, perhaps it will need something of a lift for race Q and full distance.
yeah, I think so too. This is what I meant earlier on, saying that they benefit from this format.

Same as Mercedes, for example. It's likely no coincicende that Antonelli's by far best results come from sprint qualifyings.

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Yep, they can just start with a new plank going into race Q, so this one expendable against possible result.

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search wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 13:56
RedNEO wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 13:02
Look at this graphic.. Alonso only had one lap and look how close he got to pole. All the cars ahead had two laps and they only improved on the second attempt. Trying to somehow turn this into a bad result just exposes yourself.
I never said it was a bad result. It was a good effort from everyone.

But when Alonso maximises his effort, Stroll never comes this close. Which means he yesterday didn't.
No it doesn’t mean that. Also that statement is factually absurd and wrong but it’s what you want to believe based on nothing.

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Well, we'll see what happens today. It seems that the soft tires are complicated and the car likes the medium tires much more. I think we deserve a treat and the conditions of the circuit at least don't seem to harm us too much. The last few races have been disastrous. I hope there are no accidents at the start... or that they do not harm us.
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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Otromundo wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 15:48
Well, we'll see what happens today. It seems that the soft tires are complicated and the car likes the medium tires much more. I think we deserve a treat and the conditions of the circuit at least don't seem to harm us too much. The last few races have been disastrous. I hope there are no accidents at the start... or that they do not harm us.
Yeah ditto

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The humidity of the main straight and its effect on the following corners can decide the race. Apparently it is also windy right in that area. Mmmm... If we're not unlucky... When the races get complicated Fernando usually shines.
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I’m glad Alonso is still on the good side of the grid for the next start. Put a set of soft tyres on and go for it!

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Well they decided to do a rolling start so maybe just keep mediums I guess.. or just go softs like they’ve done probably because they need mediums for the race. What start form Alonso. Almost got Max!
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