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[Emag]

Marko said the Mexico parts didn't deliver what they expected but they thought there is a way to extract performance.

If that's all there is to it, I don't understand this approach at all. If they knew the floor was tricky, why the hell didn't they swap it out after FP1. Instead they take this huge gamble and ruin the race completely.

[Sergej]

Marko said the Mexico parts didn't deliver what they expected but they thought there is a way to extract performance.

disappointing

btw he said they found what was wrong after FP3 in Mexico but couldn't apply the corrections, so maybe come Abu Dhabi they will find out

[Sergej]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

[Gillian]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

Yeah so like is said, its too obvious to be just a bad upgrade which could be fixed by dumping it. The car has a lot of understeer, like early 2022 a lot.

[Dee]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

Alright then, as fans there is nothing more that can be asked of them.

Just so weird.

[euv2]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

Yeah so like is said, its too obvious to be just a bad upgrade which could be fixed by dumping it. The car has a lot of understeer, like early 2022 a lot.

Eh, Max was just slow in every sector, the car just didn't have grip, at least yesterday he was quick in sec 1 and 3. I didn't really see any understeer in his lap.

[Valeo]

I don't understand anything anymore...

[FittingMechanics]

It seems quite simple to me, the car is a diva which is fast (under Max) but only if they nail the setup.

So when their correlation fails and they come to the race with a bad setup, they can't find a solution every time. They've had their share of miracle setup changes this year so it was bound to catch up with them.

This was a sprint weekend so they had no time to figure it out.

[Emag]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

Okay then, that makes a bit more sense. Because as I said yesterday, the team has way more data than we have. So if it was just about the Mexico floor, then they would have just scrapped it. Especially on such a critical period of the season.

Discounting this, it looks like one of those cases of these regulations just being weird as hell and impossible to be consistent in. Even McLaren have their moments sometimes, but because their base is so good this year, at best they go from total domination to joint fastest or somewhere close to that.

[bigblue]

Plus point, Yuki only +0.3s from Max! <runs and hides for cover...>

[Gillian]

anyway van Haren is saying Max is using Monza floor

Yeah so like is said, its too obvious to be just a bad upgrade which could be fixed by dumping it. The car has a lot of understeer, like early 2022 a lot.

Eh, Max was just slow in every sector, the car just didn't have grip, at least yesterday he was quick in sec 1 and 3. I didn't really see any understeer in his lap.

Look at his steering lock in sector 2.

[AR3-GP]

Plus point, Yuki only +0.3s from Max! <runs and hides for cover...>

He wasn't in reality. Verstappen was fueled for 2 runs in the last part of Q1. So Verstappen did the first lap with extra fuel, and he did the 2nd lap with used tires. On the other hand Tsunoda went out for single lap at the end on new tires. In other words, tsunoda's new tire run was 3 tenths slower than Verstappens used tire run.

We also know that they both had the same floor.

[euv2]

Plus point, Yuki only +0.3s from Max! <runs and hides for cover...>

He wasn't in reality. Verstappen was fueled for 2 runs in the last part of Q1. So Verstappen did the first lap with extra fuel, and he did the 2nd lap with used tires. On the other hand Tsunoda went out for single lap at the end on new tires. They also both had the same floor.

Max could have come in for new tires too, but he stayed out for 2 more outlaps. They should have seen that he was at risk of elimination.

[Dee]

Plus point, Yuki only +0.3s from Max! <runs and hides for cover...>

He wasn't in reality. Verstappen was fueled for 2 runs in the last part of Q1. So Verstappen did the first lap with extra fuel, and he did the 2nd lap with used tires. On the other hand Tsunoda went out for single lap at the end on new tires. They also both had the same floor.

Max could have come in for new tires too, but he stayed out for 2 more outlaps. They should have seen that he was at risk of elimination.

Agreed, I couldn't understand why he didn't go in at that stage for a new soft.

[CjC]

A pit lane start then do we think?