2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Great result for Lando. He needs to limit the damage in Vegas and fun push in Qatar to wrap it up before AD. If he finishes ahead at Vegas, in any position, the title is likely sealed in 2 weeks

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michl420 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:11
The tire strategie was actually a desaster. A second good medium tire was sorely missed. They will learn from this.

I know the narrative tomorrow will be another "epic" drive from Max, but he got very lucky just like last year. Even the puncture perfectly took him off a terrible tire early in the race, under SC conditions. And he had new Mediums and Softs left.
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FittingMechanics
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75+8=83 available.

49 ahead.

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A benchmark Grand Prix for Lando, beyond all praise!!! Bravo!!!
Oskar was penalized for no apparent reason; this judging raises questions... Verstappen rams Russell in Barcelona and gets a 10-second penalty. Here, three cars in a row, and the same 10-second penalty. Absurd!

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Macklaren wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:13
FittingMechanics wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:09
The team must go into Las Vegas with the intention to win. Don't fall into a trap of defending this lead.

Just win, take it further away.
I know the narrative tomorrow will be another "epic" drive from Max, but he got very lucky just like last year. Even the puncture perfectly took him off a terrible tire early in the race, under SC conditions. And he had new Mediums and Softs left.
Yeah, fully agreed. When you look at it objectively it was quite lucky.

He misses out on Q2 by smallest of margins, forcing them to take new engine and setup that makes it the fastest car. With a slightly better qualifying he is probably P12 or P8 with a bad setup, no new engine and little chance to go forward.

This was a great masterful drive by him but it could have easily been much worse.

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Lando struggled to get anything out of that soft tyre stint, he pitted with about a 6 second gap, and when he pitted again it was still 6 seconds

He than pulled out 4 seconds on the third stint

That’s why max was only 10 seconds behind

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Fitting let's not ignore that Red Bull changed the whole car plus the car settings outside of parc ferme. Though I expected he would struggle with the DRS trains but everyone didn't seem to offer much resistance apart from Antonelli.

But as people can see this year he didn't had the Red Flag or the Safety cars and he finished 3rd at best. Still he performed very well and that has to be recognized.

SchuMassa
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The team let Piastri down with this strategy. Not saying they are sabotaging him, but they ridiculously inflexible with their strategies.

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Piastri unfortunately has lost it and it's pretty much over for him this year.

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SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:27
The team let Piastri down with this strategy. Not saying they are sabotaging him, but they ridiculously inflexible with their strategies.
What could they do though. Softs were bad, Hards were worse. What strategy saves Piastri where he has to use at least 2 tire sets and 2/3 are horrible.
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Emag wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:29
SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:27
The team let Piastri down with this strategy. Not saying they are sabotaging him, but they ridiculously inflexible with their strategies.
What could they do though. Softs were bad, Hards were worse. What strategy saves Piastri where he has to use at least 2 tire sets and 2/3 are horrible.
A one-stopper was a no brainer at that point, I think he could have clung onto second.

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Piastri would have a good chance of finishing P2 if he didn't get the penalty.

He was faster than Mercedes and would be able and willing to undercut them.

Problem was that with his penalty, gap and inability to stretch tire life he was forced into this strategy.

If he was able to close the gap onto Mercedes or Max he could have undercut them, but he just didn't have the ability.

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SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:30
Emag wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:29
SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:27
The team let Piastri down with this strategy. Not saying they are sabotaging him, but they ridiculously inflexible with their strategies.
What could they do though. Softs were bad, Hards were worse. What strategy saves Piastri where he has to use at least 2 tire sets and 2/3 are horrible.
A one-stopper was a no brainer at that point, I think he could have clung onto second.
Mediums stabilised after 20 laps and started dropping hard after 30 laps. If he tried to push to 50 laps to try the one stopper, he would lose a lot of time. And softs were good enough for ~10 laps (as we saw with Max), beyond that it was on par with used mediums pretty much, so if you make the math, adding the 10s penalty as well. That's a lot of time he would have had to lose on really worn mediums. Not possible to make up on 10 laps with new softs.

And the hards were really a big no no. Complete dud of a tire. He would have had no pace if he tried the one-stop that way. Ultimately, the penalty was really costly. I don't blame him for trying, but maybe on such a critical period of the championship he should considering backing out sometimes on these risky moves. Kimi is a rookie after all.
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CjC wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:38
CjC wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 21:07
CjC wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 16:57
Lando has really impressed me again
Lando has really impressed me again
Lando has really impressed me again
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SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:30
Emag wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:29
SchuMassa wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:27
The team let Piastri down with this strategy. Not saying they are sabotaging him, but they ridiculously inflexible with their strategies.
What could they do though. Softs were bad, Hards were worse. What strategy saves Piastri where he has to use at least 2 tire sets and 2/3 are horrible.
A one-stopper was a no brainer at that point, I think he could have clung onto second.
What is with these super unrealistic takes (both this one and Max go to the end ones).

Oscar had no ability to go to the end, on hards he would be even slower and we'd get everyone saying the put him on wrong strategy.