2025 McLaren F1 Team

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I have to admit this didn’t cross my mind when Red Bull fitted an entirely new PU.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mcla ... ne-switch/

A month ago, the paddock was whispering about a budget cap breach possibly involving Mclaren or their engine partner (Mercedes). Mclaren (Neither Zak, nor Stella) didn't have a single word to offer during the entire news cycle.

Now there is not a hint of Red Bull doing anything wrong, and Stella wants "answers", to stir suspicion about Red Bull, and start another cost cap saga. Isn't that weird?

There is a fundamental difference here, need VS want.... RBR did not need new PU, they used the situation to get one as they wanted. If a PU or a component has failed, teams are allowed to go over budget, if it has not, which in this case hasn't, then it is a legit question to be addressed, as similar to how Max uses the gray area of the rules to gain or defend a position, the same is done by RBR, a team that is more disgusting than Ferrari in the FIA (Ferrari International Assistance) era with Schumacher.

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A month ago, the paddock was whispering about a budget cap breach possibly involving Mclaren or their engine partner (Mercedes), and Mclaren (Neither Zak, nor Stella) didn't have a single word to offer during the entire news cycle.

Now there is not a hint of Red Bull doing anything wrong, and Stella wants "answers" and want to start another cost cap saga. Isn't that weird? Weird to me at least.

Which other team had anything to say during the period? There were rumors going around the validity of which was not really evaluated at all. People were just rolling with whatever they wanted to believe. The cost cap was discussed and solved internally. None of the teams had anything to say about it, because evidently, there was nothing to talk about.

Sauber, Ferrari, and another team commented on it.

I just find it interesting that Mclaren want "transparency" and are casting suspicion now over a bit of nothing but a month prior there couldn't be reached for comment. They were the loudest team in the room during 2022. Not even a call for transparency from the highly noble Zak Brown, after the long delay in issuing the certificates this year? When someone shows a pattern of behavior, and then it goes missing when you least expect it to, it raises an eyebrow.

Can you please link some articles if you have the time. I don't remember seeing anything but rumors on social media. I really doubt this could have been "swept off under the rug" if it was as big of a deal as some people think. Toto did not let the thing go the entire year when we had the "catering-gate", I doubt any McLaren rivals would have let this go without making a fuss about it if there was indeed something to make a fuss about.

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Which other team had anything to say during the period? There were rumors going around the validity of which was not really evaluated at all. People were just rolling with whatever they wanted to believe. The cost cap was discussed and solved internally. None of the teams had anything to say about it, because evidently, there was nothing to talk about.

Sauber, Ferrari, and another team commented on it.

I just find it interesting that Mclaren want "transparency" and are casting suspicion now over a bit of nothing but a month prior there couldn't be reached for comment. They were the loudest team in the room during 2022. Not even a call for transparency from the highly noble Zak Brown, after the long delay in issuing the certificates this year? When someone shows a pattern of behavior, and then it goes missing when you least expect it to, it raises an eyebrow.

Can you please link some articles if you have the time. I don't remember seeing anything but rumors on social media. I really doubt this could have been "swept off under the rug" if it was as big of a deal as some people think. Toto did not let the thing go the entire year when we had the "catering-gate", I doubt any McLaren rivals would have let this go without making a fuss about it if there was indeed something to make a fuss about.

They were asked during the team principles press conference in Austin. Again the 3 of them where in a situation were they ‘have to’ give an answer of some sort and can’t just brush off a reporter in the paddock.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-team-p ... cap-breach.

In response AR3-GP, from what I saw Mclaren were there 4th/ 5th team to be ‘cleared’ by the journos to comply. It was mainly the Red Bull thread on this forum who were accusing Mclaren the most to have been in breach of the cap.

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I have to admit this didn’t cross my mind when Red Bull fitted an entirely new PU.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mcla ... ne-switch/

A month ago, the paddock was whispering about a budget cap breach possibly involving Mclaren or their engine partner (Mercedes). Mclaren (Neither Zak, nor Stella) didn't have a single word to offer during the entire news cycle.

Now there is not a hint of Red Bull doing anything wrong, and Stella wants "answers", to stir suspicion about Red Bull, and start another cost cap saga. Isn't that weird?

RB took an extra engine. McLaren didnt grandstand or "stir" anything.

To be honest, these kind of power unit changes, they challenge the regulations," explained Stella.

I will be interested in understanding if the cost of this engine now goes in the cost cap or not. If the engine was changed for performance reasons, it should go in the cost cap.
So let's see if this is the case, not that I will be able to see, as it's all on the Red Bull side.
But this is also one reason why we wouldn't do it, because it would end up in the cost cap.

It's a current and pertinent problem that Stella want's clarity on, and as team boss he will want to know from the FIA if it's legit to go ahead and do so for McLaren. That's just good practice, rather than you know....just doing it if it's illegal.

As for the rumours, baseless nonsense that bears no comparison to what Stella is asking.