2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[deadhead]

Honestly, I feel like giving LeClerc a hug. How long will bad luck keep chasing him ? Yes he makes mistakes at times, but he has had more DNFs from no fault of his own than those from his own mistakes. Could have been on the podium today.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy too. Maybe that's the problem.... Nice guys finish last?

He certainly isn’t a nice guy on track

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[Emag]

If they continue to blame drivers, then they're in for a rude awakening when Charles leaves them. With the exception of Max, you won't find anyone better. Charles has literally saved them from a complete embarrassment of a season by getting some podiums at least. Perhaps what Ferrari needs is new leadership that appreciates all their employees Mr.Elkann. Especially the drivers, who have been giving it their all these past few years even though the car has not been up to par with competitors.

[dans79]

his actual words.
https://lapresse.us/sports/2025/11/10/f ... talk-less/


but regardless of what exactly he said he can go $#&@^#@%@&$. The teams number one problem since the days of Enzo is how dethatched from reality and how narcissistic the people at the vert top are. They have always been paranoid about how the "brand" is perceived. And none of them have ever understood most people who by Ferrari's don't care how they do at the track. At the same time very few of those who care how they do at the track are ever going to buy a Ferrari road car.

[AR3-GP]

If they continue to blame drivers, then they're in for a rude awakening when Charles leaves them.

In my opinion, he isn't blaming Charles. He just can't name Hamilton directly. As it were, Hamilton has been all talk.

We need drivers who think more about Ferrari and less about themselves

This is certainly directed at Hamilton.

[Emag]

If they continue to blame drivers, then they're in for a rude awakening when Charles leaves them.

In my opinion, he isn't blaming Charles. He just can't name Hamilton directly. As it were, Hamilton has been all talk.

We need drivers who think more about Ferrari and less about themselves

This is certainly directed at Hamilton.

I don't know what's going on behind the scenes obviously, but publicly Lewis hasn't really been super critical of the team. If anything, he has been very critical of himself for his worse performances. Lewis was really expensive for this team to get, I agree. So far, it's fair to say he hasn't lived up to the expectation and it's likely Ferrari would have fared the same with Carlos, just with a much smaller price tag. Perhaps Vasseur was the man who pushed most to get him, so it might have been the catalyst for him to get grilled in the background.

But this is a shitty way to beat around the bush in my opinion. Nobody forced them to get Lewis. There are bigger problems than Lewis' underperformance this season. If the car was good enough they would have won with it. If not Lewis, Charles would have delivered. I would focus on that if I were them instead of throwing your driver under the bus like this.

[bananapeel23]

Man they should just have brought the SF-24 back. The regulation changes were minimal and the SF24 was a great car without any fundamental flaws apart from slow tyre warming. The SF25 is a slow car with big fundamental issues relating to ride height.

The fact that Leclerc has managed several podiums and a pole in this tractor is a miracle. He deserves better, and if the rumpurs are to be believed, he has no chance in 2026 due to the engine deficit.

I lovw Charles and I love Ferrari, but Charles really needs to switch teams if that is what it takes to get a championship winning car. He should be knocking on the door of McLaren and Mercedes. He is head and shoulders better than any driver not named Max Verstappen.

[Luscion]

Elkann is very out of touch with what's going on at Ferrari and F1 in general it seems, he's talking about the DHL pit stop awards and wanting to get pole position and talks about how the SF-25 has improve while its still a turd of a car both drivers have said is hard to drive over and over. Also the line of the mechanics and engineers being up to par and the rest arent, seems like a shot at everyone else including Fred imo, either way just completely unnecessary from Elkann

[venkyhere]

Elkann himself brought in Hamilton, disturbing a well balanced team, and now he himself is blaming it on the drivers ?
As a long time F1 follower, in a way, I am glad that the Ferrari board/upper-management/chairman-CEO level guys are in flamethrower mode. They (the management and engineering) have historically been the most arrogant bunch of people in F1 history. The lack of success over the past 18 years - serves them right. My sympathies are with drivers and Tifosi who live in eternal hope. They couldn't dream of a driver like LeClerc staying with them over these many years, without success and with eternal 'promise' alone.

[j_ste]

That’s pathetic. How not to be a leader 101

[AR3-GP]

Elkann himself brought in Hamilton, disturbing a well balanced team, and now he himself is blaming it on the drivers ?

That's the problem isn't it? He brought in Hamilton on big money and now that Hamilton isn't meeting expectation, it reflects poorly on his judgement.

Leclerc has 7 podiums. He said Ferrari wants to finish P2 and that the drivers (obviously Hamilton, he just wouldn't want to do that publically) need to perform. I don't understand why many are so touchy about this. It's true.

[Luscion]

Elkann himself brought in Hamilton, disturbing a well balanced team, and now he himself is blaming it on the drivers ?

That's the problem isn't it? He brought in Hamilton on big money and now that Hamilton isn't meeting expectation, it reflects poorly on his judgement.

Leclerc has 7 podiums. He said Ferrari wants to finish P2 and that the drivers (obviously Hamilton, he just wouldn't want to do that publically) need to perform. I don't understand why many are so touchy about this. It's true.

Dont know why your making this like he's only talking about Lewis, he said everyone else but the engineers are not up to par

[AR3-GP]

Elkann himself brought in Hamilton, disturbing a well balanced team, and now he himself is blaming it on the drivers ?

That's the problem isn't it? He brought in Hamilton on big money and now that Hamilton isn't meeting expectation, it reflects poorly on his judgement.

Leclerc has 7 podiums. He said Ferrari wants to finish P2 and that the drivers (obviously Hamilton, he just wouldn't want to do that publically) need to perform. I don't understand why many are so touchy about this. It's true.

Dont know why your making this like he's only talking about Lewis, he said everyone else but the engineers are not up to par

Luscion this is really getting tired.

you can say that we have the mechanics who are winning the championship thanks to their performances and everything that was done during the pit stops. If you look at our engineers, there's no doubt that the car has improved. If you look at the rest, it's not up to par. And we certainly have drivers who need to focus on driving and talk less, because we still have important races ahead of us and it's not impossible to get second place."

Why is everyone beating around the bush? Is this the twilight zone? There is only one driver in this team that does a lot of talking and little performing. The Hamilton signing was supposed to be Elkann's masterpiece, and now it's not going so well.

He is not blaming anybody for not winning the championship. Obviously the car wasn't good enough. They are now in a fight for P2. That's the situation and both drivers need to fight. Right now 1 driver is fighting and the other is talking. You all know exactly who that message was for. Stop it. Hamilton made subliminal digs at "those above" earlier in the season, and Elkann has simply returned the favor in Hamilton's own language.

[ScuderiaLeo]

I just don't think Hamilton has been performing so poorly he deserves this kind of talk from his team's own executive let alone the one who signed him on. His results after the summer have been:

• SAP: Damage due to his own (small) mistake. Double DNF
• MXC: Was screwed over by the FIA/team (not his fault), debatably unwarranted penalty after. P8 (Lec P2)
• USA: Unremarkable but good race, beat Leclerc in the sprint. P4 (Lec P3)
• SIN: Brakes failure at the end. Not really a good place to compare since Lec was driving more carefully. As I've said before, I think the team is to blame for this. P8 (Lec P6)
• AZE: Better than Leclerc across the whole weekend. P8 (Lec P9)
• ITA: Good race, made up many positions after starting P10 due to a grid penalty. P6 (Lec P4)
• NED: Damage due to his own mistake. Double DNF

While he's made more mistakes than Leclerc and been generally performing poorer, was Elkann or anyone really expecting Hamilton to beat Leclerc? Anyone who thought that was severely underrating Leclerc's abilities. From Zandvoort to now he has 39 points and Leclerc has 63, that would be slightly closer if things in Mexico had gone differently. Actually, Hamilton has brought more points to the team than Antonelli has relative to Russell's results since Zandvoort, and everyone has been talking about how good Antonelli has been recently. 61% of Leclerc's points is hardly a gap large enough to warrant Elkann's comment.

Like Emag said, even if Hamilton has underperformed across the season, he is not the main reason for the team's failure compared to last season. The car and communication have been far more impactful to their final points total than Hamilton being a few positions behind Leclerc, because these are both drivers who we know can compete for wins if given the opportunity, and they haven't been given the opportunity.

[SoulPancake13]

I just don't think Hamilton has been performing so poorly he deserves this kind of talk from his team's own executive let alone the one who signed him on. His results after the summer have been:

• SAP: Damage due to his own (small) mistake. Double DNF
• MXC: Was screwed over by the FIA/team (not his fault), debatably unwarranted penalty after. P8 (Lec P2)
• USA: Unremarkable but good race, beat Leclerc in the sprint. P4 (Lec P3)
• SIN: Brakes failure at the end. Not really a good place to compare since Lec was driving more carefully. As I've said before, I think the team is to blame for this. P8 (Lec P6)
• AZE: Better than Leclerc across the whole weekend. P8 (Lec P9)
• ITA: Good race, made up many positions after starting P10 due to a grid penalty. P6 (Lec P4)
• NED: Damage due to his own mistake. Double DNF

While he's made more mistakes than Leclerc and been generally performing poorer, was Elkann or anyone really expecting Hamilton to beat Leclerc? Anyone who thought that was severely underrating Leclerc's abilities. From Zandvoort to now he has 39 points and Leclerc has 63, that would be slightly closer if things in Mexico had gone differently. Actually, Hamilton has brought more points to the team than Antonelli has relative to Russell's results since Zandvoort, and everyone has been talking about how good Antonelli has been recently. 61% of Leclerc's points is hardly a gap large enough to warrant Elkann's comment.

Like Emag said, even if Hamilton has underperformed across the season, he is not the main reason for the team's failure compared to last season. The car and communication have been far more impactful to their final points total than Hamilton being a few positions behind Leclerc, because these are both drivers who we know can compete for wins if given the opportunity, and they haven't been given the opportunity.

I would argue that you are being too kind with Lewis's Mexico GP because he has to do better there than just send it way too late and completely cut the track, he ruined his own race there, no fault of the FIA - but as harsh as I was on Lewis yesterday, today I must defend him because what Elkann said is just pure and utter crap. Hearing ELKANN of all people tell others they need to work more and talk less is amazing, this guy is the definition of a nepo baby who hasn't had to life a finger once a day in his life. Leclerc and Lewis deserve better, no reasonable person would *ever* publicly say that about their drivers. Hope it was worth it for Elkann because both Leclerc and Hamilton should leave this mediocre team ASAP if they plan on winning anything, they won't do it here as long as this egotistical moron is in charge of things.