2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[RedNEO]

Alonso once said "When the car is fast, all the strategies work!"

Well, yes... but look at VER and the RB guys... before the race, nobody would have bet a penny on them making the podium. But they've managed to find something. That never happens to us.

That car is faster than AMR25 by alot. Look at the constructors points. They started from pit lane, which means they changed their setup back to something closer to the sprint setup.

They just put in a new engine and put on qualifying maps. Nothing special

[Otromundo]

Well, yes... but look at VER and the RB guys... before the race, nobody would have bet a penny on them making the podium. But they've managed to find something. That never happens to us.

That car is faster than AMR25 by alot. Look at the constructors points. They started from pit lane, which means they changed their setup back to something closer to the sprint setup.

They just put in a new engine and put on qualifying maps. Nothing special

Yes, the RB is much better. But yesterday they were lost. And TSU with the same car finished last today. I know they started from the pit lane because they were forced to change the setup. But setup changes don't always work out. In the same situation, nowadays, AM is unable to achieve anything similar or even something positive.

[Nikosar]

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He needs to go!

Gerhard Berger: Mike Krack “did not impress me”
https://www.motorsinside.com/en/f1/news ... impress-me

As a reminder, Mike Krack was in charge of the motorsport program at BMW and regularly worked with Formula E, the World Endurance Championship, and IMSA races. The Luxembourger joined Aston Martin after Otmar Szafnauer’s departure for Alpine.

« We will see what can be done,” said Gerhard Berger. « But when I look at what has been done in the DTM, I don’t see what path Aston Martin could follow with it. Since I have been here, BMW has never been truly competitive. It was always the same, one day they were in a good position but didn’t know why, and the next day they were at the bottom of the grid and still didn’t know why. When you look at that and see it over a long period, you start to question the people behind it and who was managing this project,” he revealed.

« And it’s the DTM! The DTM is excellent. But Formula 1 is another class. There, you have to be the best of the best in the world. And that’s not what I see,” explained Berger. « Sorry, I was a bit direct, but you asked me the question. That’s my opinion,” said ». Well, that’s clear now.

In DTM, the BMW team has failed to secure a title since Marco Wittmann was crowned among the drivers. In total, BMW has only won four races over the past two years.

If Mike Krack is as bad as people say, Audi wouldn’t have offered him a tasty contract just a few months ago, would they?

As for today’s strategy, it was a long stint on hard tires, and the hope was for a safety car that didn’t come. But looking at the 2025 Brazilian GP, Aston Martin’s car was already off the pace since qualifying.

And remember, the strategy with the hard tires was a joint decision with the driver—Alonso himself said starting on different tires would have ended worse for them. So, what exactly was Krack supposed to do? Push the car to the front himself?

Overall there a whole team spread around the world who give input for the strategy, is not just Krack.

[madridista]

Based on their recent form Haas is likely going to get AM ,could get close with Sauber too

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

That’s nice. Can someone lift and coast this race operations team including Krack into anywhere else that’s not Aston Martin. I think more heads will be rolling for 26 if they haven’t already.

There is always 2 sides to a strategy, right ? The team lays it out and the drivers execute it. You'll notice that Alonso is USUALLY able to execute it better that Stroll.

Today Alonso was too slow. Alonso got stuck in traffic with the hards and the 1st set of Mediums. You get extra wear when you have to defend or pass... That results in either pitting sooner or running more laps on a slow tire. Anyways .. they pitted one lap before Ocon on the last stint. Alonso and Ocon started out lapping at about the same pace after about 15 laps Ocon was lapping .7 a lap faster. Alonso caught up later but only cause he was in traffic.

To me the other teams adjusted their setups for the Quali/race and AM F1 fell behind.

Nah ,look at Verstappen! Started from box. Got tyre puncture and still on Podium. Look where is his team mate always... I just wanted to say that traffic or not is a race,and have to pass the cars to be on the podium. L&C i don't know why they have to do it always, is just ridiculous.

[diffuser]

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Based on their recent form Haas is likely going to get AM ,could get close with Sauber too

It is what it is. The car hasn't changed since Silverstone. It's not gonna get better. We're just going through the motions. I don't know why they change the regs so often...just leads to these dead end seasons, then lopsided seasons.

[diffuser]

Well, yes... but look at VER and the RB guys... before the race, nobody would have bet a penny on them making the podium. But they've managed to find something. That never happens to us.

That car is faster than AMR25 by alot. Look at the constructors points. They started from pit lane, which means they changed their setup back to something closer to the sprint setup.

They just put in a new engine and put on qualifying maps. Nothing special

Internal Combustion Engine(ICE) – 4th of 4 allowed
Turbocharger (TC) – 5th of 4 allowed
Motor Generator Unit-Heat (MGU-H) – 5th of 4 allowed
Motor Generator Unit-Kinetic (MGU-K) – 5th of 4 allowed
Energy Store (ES) – 3rd of 2 allowed
Control Electronics (CE) – 3rd of 2 allowed

That new engine was for Vegas, since they qualified at the back anyways, the penalty was minimal.

[TyreSlip]

Haas updated their car at Texas and it has been extremely quick since. 7th is going to be lost to them.

[TyreSlip]

L&C i don't know why they have to do it always, is just ridiculous.

This car is the 2024 tyre eater with a slightly improved aerodynamic body and an upgraded floor. Its DNA has not changed from Fallows' design. When the Texas update failed last year, the team forwent on designing a new chassis for this year. Aston Martin is worse now that Haas' upgraded car has more race pace than Aston Martin.

[diffuser]

L&C i don't know why they have to do it always, is just ridiculous.

This car is the 2024 tyre eater with a slightly improved aerodynamic body and an upgraded floor. Its DNA has not changed from Fallows' design. When the Texas update failed last year, the team forwent on designing a new chassis for this year. Aston Martin is worse now that Haas' upgraded car has more race pace than Aston Martin.

They did not upgrade the chassis, if you mean front and rear suspension, this year. Those parts are still from 2024. They did redesign the floor, the radiators and cooling was adjusted too.

[TyreSlip]

L&C i don't know why they have to do it always, is just ridiculous.

This car is the 2024 tyre eater with a slightly improved aerodynamic body and an upgraded floor. Its DNA has not changed from Fallows' design. When the Texas update failed last year, the team forwent on designing a new chassis for this year. Aston Martin is worse now that Haas' upgraded car has more race pace than Aston Martin.

They did not upgrade the chassis, if you mean front and rear suspension, this year. Those parts are still from 2024. They did redesign the floor, the radiators and cooling was adjusted too.

I thought that is what I said?

[Rikrikrik]

The best thing about this year is, probably we will finish this year in ninth pocision and we will have so many hours for the wind tunnel, more than others. Im praying for the next car will be a decent car at least, even not a championship contender, just a decent car at least

[diffuser]

The best thing about this year is, probably we will finish this year in ninth pocision and we will have so many hours for the wind tunnel, more than others. Im praying for the next car will be a decent car at least, even not a championship contender, just a decent car at least

True

[NAPI10]

The best thing about this year is, probably we will finish this year in ninth pocision and we will have so many hours for the wind tunnel, more than others. Im praying for the next car will be a decent car at least, even not a championship contender, just a decent car at least

True

That's the minimum expectations with start studded technical staff. Still, it will all comes down to powerful & reliable engines.

[Otromundo]

The best thing about this year is, probably we will finish this year in ninth pocision and we will have so many hours for the wind tunnel, more than others. Im praying for the next car will be a decent car at least, even not a championship contender, just a decent car at least

True

That's the minimum expectations with start studded technical staff. Still, it will all comes down to powerful & reliable engines.

I already have something to comfort myself with: it has all been a strategy. Since they saw that the car was a failure, they were determined to do everything wrong to fully enjoy the wind tunnel in the 2026 season... it doesn't sound bad. It even sounds believable.