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[Wouter]

Catching Up with Laurent Mekies: Max, Yuki, and 2026! | Talking Bull

[Luscion]

[the EDGE]

Red Bull have NEVER launched a new car before, I don’t see them doing so now

[tinuva]

Red Bull have NEVER launched a new car before, I don’t see them doing so now

Not sure what you read, but I read they revealing their 26 liveries. Definitely not the same word as car.

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[the EDGE]

Red Bull have NEVER launched a new car before, I don’t see them doing so now

Not sure what you read, but I read they revealing their 26 liveries. Definitely not the same word as car.

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Yeah, my bad… I should learn to read the whole tweet before commenting

[pantherxxx]

Who cares about liveries. I only care about the actual car.

[Alexf1]

0.0001% chance, but if this happens I would be the happiest man alive…

Otherwise will just enjoy now this season until the end. 2026 comes a reset…

https://postimg.cc/ZCbWH9n4

Going by Stella's sore comments about the power unit change on Max's car immediately after the race he might have their own fragile situation in mind due to high mileage on all their power units. I saw some Mercedes PUs go boom earlier in the season..

[trinidefender]

0.0001% chance, but if this happens I would be the happiest man alive…

Otherwise will just enjoy now this season until the end. 2026 comes a reset…

https://postimg.cc/ZCbWH9n4

Going by Stella's sore comments about the power unit change on Max's car immediately after the race he might have their own fragile situation in mind due to high mileage on all their power units. I saw some Mercedes PUs go boom earlier in the season..

Why would you consider the comments sore? Teams asking the FIA to clarify rules when another team does something is and has always been a normal part of F1.

All the PU’s seem to be fairly reliable these days with failures seeming to be more at random than just one particular manufacturer. (I haven’t bothered to run a PU failure rate analysis so I can’t say that for certain, just what I’m feeling). Max’s PU will definitely be up on power to everyone else on the grid though and with a reduced chance of failure.

[Alexf1]

Sore because they as a PU customer team are not in a position to stick in a new one in at will while a PU manufacturers team can. Sticking in a new one by the end of the season when you've qualified near the back has been done for quite some years. No way this question hasn't been asked before to the FIA. Stella just wanted to drop it in the press to poke..

[CjC]

Sore because they as a PU customer team are not in a position to stick in a new one in at will while a PU manufacturers team can. Sticking in a new one by the end of the season when you've qualified near the back has been done for quite some years. No way this question hasn't been asked before to the FIA. Stella just wanted to drop it in the press to poke..

Why isn’t a customer team in a position to stick a new one in like a manufacturer?

Surely every team has the access to a new PU and the full host of elements every weekend?

Also being a manufacturer doesn’t make them exempt from having the cost of any extra elements taken out of the cost cap.

[venkyhere]

Anyone who is confident of making places up from the back, can take a fresh engine. It requires a maverick mentality from the team & driver. Redbull tried it in Spa2024, didn't work out, but they still haven't abandoned their attitude about it. McLaren are free to do the same starting next race, with Norris. Will the team & driver be willing and ready ? Stella is just crying sour grapes (when there is no need to, Norris has virtually won the WDC anyway)

[FittingMechanics]

If McLaren qualifies in P16 I'm sure they would take a new engine (if there are no cost cap implications). People are talking like Max would take a new engine if he qualified in P5. He wouldn't.

McLaren asked a simple question, is this engine excluded from the cost cap. It shouldn't be as Mekies said they had no reliability concerns so it's obviously a performance decision.

Replacement engines due to reliability are excluded from the cost cap to avoid situation where a team has a catastrophic failure of the engine late in the season (or a crash) and then breaks the cost cap because of it.

[venkyhere]

If McLaren qualifies in P16 I'm sure they would take a new engine (if there are no cost cap implications). People are talking like Max would take a new engine if he qualified in P5. He wouldn't.

Redbull have qualified P1 and taken a new engine and the penalty (gamble pays off sometimes, sometimes doesn't) , many times, if my memory serves me right. That's why I said, it's the mentality of the team and am questioning whether Mclaren will do it even if they qualify on the front row.

[FittingMechanics]

If McLaren qualifies in P16 I'm sure they would take a new engine (if there are no cost cap implications). People are talking like Max would take a new engine if he qualified in P5. He wouldn't.

Redbull have qualified P1 and taken a new engine and the penalty (gamble pays off sometimes, sometimes doesn't) , many times, if my memory serves me right. That's why I said, it's the mentality of the team and am questioning whether Mclaren will do it even if they qualify on the front row.

It depends a lot on the circumstances. If you know your engine reliability is good, you are not forced to take these penalties like Red Bull was. Second, if your engine does not lose a lot of performance over it's life, that is another reason why you don't need to take new engines. Obviously having Max Verstappen who is masterful in overtaking helps minimize any loss from taking such an engine.

It is obvious that Mercedes engines do not drop off that much or suffer with reliability as Mercedes powered cars don't usually opt to put in new engines unless there is little to no downside (like starting in P16).

It is quite possible that Honda is different and they had to do what they did, it is nothing about "mentality". They are doing it because of math showing them that they will be faster if they do it over the course of the season.

[venkyhere]

If McLaren qualifies in P16 I'm sure they would take a new engine (if there are no cost cap implications). People are talking like Max would take a new engine if he qualified in P5. He wouldn't.

Redbull have qualified P1 and taken a new engine and the penalty (gamble pays off sometimes, sometimes doesn't) , many times, if my memory serves me right. That's why I said, it's the mentality of the team and am questioning whether Mclaren will do it even if they qualify on the front row.

It depends a lot on the circumstances. If you know your engine reliability is good, you are not forced to take these penalties like Red Bull was. Second, if your engine does not lose a lot of performance over it's life, that is another reason why you don't need to take new engines. Obviously having Max Verstappen who is masterful in overtaking helps minimize any loss from taking such an engine.

It is obvious that Mercedes engines do not drop off that much or suffer with reliability as Mercedes powered cars don't usually opt to put in new engines unless there is little to no downside (like starting in P16).

It is quite possible that Honda is different and they had to do what they did, it is nothing about "mentality". They are doing it because of math showing them that they will be faster if they do it over the course of the season.

In your estimate, what will be horsepower advantage of a fresh engine, over another than has run, say 6 races ?