2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[f1isgood]

""What can we learn for the upcoming races in Las Vegas, Qatar and Abu Dhabi? At least we now know which floor we are going to use next, and we now also know which sash adjustment works best."

https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1/29 ... verstappen

Do not fall for this

Fall for what? Seems pretty obvious that the old floor was working better.

It was used in qualifying in Brazil. I wouldn't go that far. It's still hit or miss barring a purple patch. It is still not easy to setup this car.

[venkyhere]

Just refreshing the images (from the car thread) as to what is old (Monza) and what is new (Mexico) :



It remains to be seen, which floor they start the LasVegas weekend with :
a) the new one flopped in Mexico and Brazil, let's keep the tried and tested 'old' one
or
b) maybe we can get the 'new' one working here (three FP sessions), our greed for 'more load' can't be just swatted away, we need to try one final time.

My curiosity extends to what they use as the FW+RW, given the 'long corners' T3 and T6
- the Monza combo (it/Max was able to deal with parabolica and both Lesmos, despite the super-light rear)
- the Baku combo (it/Max was able to ace T16 & castle section in Baku - which is similar to T12 and T14-15-16 in Vegas)

[euv2]

Nice podcast with Ben Hodgkinson, head of Red Bull power trains.

Some tidbits:
-170 staff from Merc jumped ship with him.
-Efuel- leaves some sticky residue- some design problems
-no mguH means more turbo lag, 5 sec before redlights might not be enough for full boost, possible big deltas in race launch
-no fuel burn in exhaust
-target set to be the best PU on the grid.
-Merc advantage is being able to build and test components before RBPT.
-RBPT has the most state of the art facilities and only other team alongside Ferrari to have everything inhouse,hoping to take better advantage of this
-Ford helped with testing turbos, before RBPT could get their own benches, also helped with procuring batteries since RBPT is too small.
-Expects Max to make a bigger difference in these next regs.

[Vettel165]

Yes they can, thats the most successful team in the last 15 years. They can deliver also in 2026...

[f1isgood]

Nice podcast with Ben Hodgkinson, head of Red Bull power trains.

Some tidbits:
-170 staff from Merc jumped ship with him.
-Efuel- leaves some sticky residue- some design problems
-no mguH means more turbo lag, 5 sec before redlights might not be enough for full boost, possible big deltas in race launch
-no fuel burn in exhaust
-target set to be the best PU on the grid.
-Merc advantage is being able to build and test components before RBPT.
-RBPT has the most state of the art facilities and only other team alongside Ferrari to have everything inhouse,hoping to take better advantage of this
-Ford helped with testing turbos, before RBPT could get their own benches, also helped with procuring batteries since RBPT is too small.
-Expects Max to make a bigger difference in these next regs.

Very interesting to hear. Seems like they are hitting all their targets and he seems very much Wache like - "If you are confident in F1, then you are basically wrong or something along those lines". Nice to know he brought 170 folks with him and seems to have been around for a long time. Very interesting year ahead!

[Badger]

Interesting. I never heard him speak before, but the fact that he is going on podcasts mere months away from launch is a decent sign. He wasn’t playing down expectations either which you might expect if things were going badly behind the scenes. I think a disaster scenario is quite low probability, at least performance wise. Reliability wise something unforeseen could come when the car hits the track.

[venkyhere]

https://press.pirelli.com/roulette-in-las-vegas/

Min pressures 28F and 26R , for 2024 this was 27F and 24.5R. This is not too far below typical road/street car tyre pressures.

I guess the idea is to blow them upto make them feel like concrete to the drivers, indirectly prompting suspensions to be even stiffer than last year and thus cause more graining on the rears than 2024 on a fundamentally low-grip fine grain track ; thereby manipulating teams to lean towards a 2-stop race ; which might bring in the S (C5) as a race option for the first 10 laps or so. All this, on top of Pirelli declaring that the core construction of the 2025 tyre is more robust/strong than that of 2024.

With track temps for the entire weekend not likely to cross the early teens, we can almost be sure that there will be lots of complaints about sliding rears on the H (C3).

I am sure the excuse that Pirelli have for frankenstein levels of tyre pressures is : "2025 cars generate more load".

[Emag]

It didnt make much sense for McLaren to lose half a second in 4 corners last year either, but now they make some crappy adjustments that will somhow throw another team under the bus. Can’t stress it enough how much I dislike the impact tires have on pecking order.

[Wouter]

Securing The Win Episode Five: Max Verstappen and Yuki Tsunoda

19 nov 2025
In Formula 1, performance isn’t just about power it’s about precision, pressure, and knowing when to trust your instincts.

In the final episode of Securing the Win, we sit down with Max Verstappen and Yuki Tsunoda to explore how two elite drivers
think about speed, performance, and staying sharp through a demanding season.

[AR3-GP]

It looks like they have the wing that they used on Friday in Monza.



For qualifying/race they trimmed the flap further. I wonder if they will do that again.

[Valeo]

It´s really really cold this time. Could imagine teams won´t get away with running same or even less df levels as last year.

[Badger]

It´s really really cold this time. Could imagine teams won´t get away with running same or even less df levels as last year.

If they can they will. The lower wing might be 3-4 tenths of guaranteed lap time every lap.

[search]

It´s really really cold this time. Could imagine teams won´t get away with running same or even less df levels as last year.

temperatures were more or less the same last year, with the sessions even later in the night. Only the race was a bit warmer (15-16°C)

[AR3-GP]

Any pictures of the floor?

[Sergej]

Max was on Monza floor, Yuki on Mexico floor. https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-re ... /10778477/