2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ScuderiaLeo]

Elkann about to tell Charles to shut up again

Ever since I've been here, we've had this issue in the rain. It's so frustrating because we've tried everything. Lewis and Carlos have made the same comments. We can't manage to use the grip. It's just extremely difficult to drive, even to keep it on the track.

I came here to post this too. Elkann not going to be happy, this is the exact opposite of what he wanted

But I'm glad he's telling it like it is. It's true the second a drop of water hits the track, the entire team and car forgets how to function.. it's amazing how it's been so many years of this, different drivers, different TPs, different cars, no improvement

[AR3-GP]

Hamilton inexplicably drove over the bollard on the inside of the final corner and wouldn't have been able to do a final lap as a result, but I look forward to the theses about how it's all Ferrari's fault.

[yooogurt]

But I'm glad he's telling it like it is.

So, Williams or Racing Bull are better in this condition? And the drivers had nothing to do with it? rly?

[FittingMechanics]

Disaster session for Ferrari..

The car just gives up when it gets wet, 2secs off the pace

Isn't this that infamous sensitivity to ride height. When they put rain tires the car is raised and floor stops working.

Same thing happens when they see a lot of plank wear. Car has theoretical potential.

[Luscion]

But I'm glad he's telling it like it is.

So, Williams or Racing Bull are better in this condition? And the drivers had nothing to do with it? rly?

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

[ScuderiaLeo]

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

What is wrong with this car at T9-12???

The wheelspin is so loud!!

[edu2703]

I watched Leclerc's onboard footage and was shocked by how much he struggled with the car in the corners and even on the straights. Every time he came out of a corner, he had wheelspin on acceleration. He seemed to be driving on ice.

I know Leclerc isn't the best driver in the rain, but today I can't blame him for this result. It's actually a miracle he even got that car into Q3.

[yooogurt]

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

All car are awful in wet, its more about driver skill.
But apparently our pilots are never to blame, it's all just a bad car and Elkann

[Luscion]

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

All car are awful in wet, its more about driver skill.
But apparently our pilots are never to blame, it's all just a bad car and Elkann

I don't know how you watch that video, see leclerc talk about it being an issue with their cars since he's been there, saying his two other teammates have brought it up as being a problem and not think there's a big issue with Ferrari and wet weather

[Luscion]

Other interview-

It's been seven years since we've had this problem. It's always been one of my strengths in the junior series, but since I joined Ferrari, I've never found the right feel in the rain. And it's like that every time. We try different things every time, but nothing works. I have no explanation, but it's starting to drag on a bit too long... Every time it rains even a little, we already know what to expect."

- "I'm trying to forget about it and give it my all, but even today, despite a good lap, I couldn't do anything. Even when I tried to improve my time in the final lap, I didn't have the pace. Even with the mistake, I was still a tenth slower than the previous time. When I see the gap, it's really hard to understand."

- "On top of that, Las Vegas is a street circuit, we're racing at night, it's cold and damp. If you combine all these elements, you end up with a tough qualifying session. In the team, we have Lewis, we've had Carlos, who know what it means to drive in these conditions. And yes, it's clear that we need to improve in these conditions. It's extremely difficult for us to drive. From my side, I can only say that it's incredibly hard to drive. I know exactly what I would need to go faster. However, it's very difficult to achieve. But we'll try."

- "Honestly, I think it will be difficult to finish second in the constructors' standings. What I want is to fight for the win, so the SF-25 is certainly not a car we'll miss. I'm still going to try to do something special. We have quite a high aerodynamic load, which, in theory, should have helped us in these conditions. I think it will be difficult to overtake."

[Badger]

But I'm glad he's telling it like it is.

So, Williams or Racing Bull are better in this condition? And the drivers had nothing to do with it? rly?

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

Am I missing something? That car looks pretty normal for inters on a super low grip track. No major snaps in the medium and high speed, a bit of snaking in the low speed traction but that is to be expected. Not a car for pole with the Maccas around but definitely drivable.

Btw, look at Charles in turn 9, the corner where he struggles for traction. He takes too much speed into the apex which unsettles the rear, then he takes the normal dry line out wide on the exit and struggles a lot to find traction. I just watched Norris and Verstappen on their fastest laps, both take a tight line on the exit, staying 1,5-2 car widths away from the wall. Many cars did this actually throughout quali. Sometimes it's up to the driver to hunt the grip.

[RonMexico]

When was the last time a Ferrari qualified P20?

[Xyz22]

So, Williams or Racing Bull are better in this condition? And the drivers had nothing to do with it? rly?

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

Am I missing something? That car looks pretty normal for inters on a super low grip track. No major snaps in the medium and high speed, a bit of snaking in the low speed traction but that is to be expected. Not a car for pole with the Maccas around but definitely drivable.

Btw, look at Charles in turn 9, the corner where he struggles for traction. He takes too much speed into the apex which unsettles the rear, then he takes the normal dry line out wide on the exit and struggles a lot to find traction. I just watched Norris and Verstappen on their fastest laps, both take a tight line on the exit, staying 1,5-2 car widths away from the wall. Many cars did this actually throughout quali. Sometimes it's up to the driver to hunt the grip.

All drivers have been saying the same thing: the car is extremely unpredictable which increase the amount of mistakes made by the drivers.
Please go check previous rain affected qualifying sessions: Ferrari have always been absolutely garbage, even with Sainz (almost P2 today).

Last year Sainz crashed like a complete clown in Brazil.

My favourite one is still SPA 2021:



Latifi ahead of Sainz and almost faster than both Ferraris. Leclerc 1.7s off Norris

[PlatinumZealot]

Charles should talk less!

lol

Anyway. Horrible performance!

Adami should be swapped out for 2026. There is still zero rapport between him and the No.44 driver.

[AR3-GP]

i mean yes? the ferrari has been known to be awful in wet conditions for most of these regs. like Charles said, they were quick in the dry but the moment it rains theres no pace. listen to those levels of wheel spin

Am I missing something? That car looks pretty normal for inters on a super low grip track. No major snaps in the medium and high speed, a bit of snaking in the low speed traction but that is to be expected. Not a car for pole with the Maccas around but definitely drivable.

Btw, look at Charles in turn 9, the corner where he struggles for traction. He takes too much speed into the apex which unsettles the rear, then he takes the normal dry line out wide on the exit and struggles a lot to find traction. I just watched Norris and Verstappen on their fastest laps, both take a tight line on the exit, staying 1,5-2 car widths away from the wall. Many cars did this actually throughout quali. Sometimes it's up to the driver to hunt the grip.

All drivers have been saying the same thing: the car is extremely unpredictable which increase the amount of mistakes made by the drivers.
Please go check previous rain affected qualifying sessions: Ferrari have always been absolutely garbage, even with Sainz (almost P2 today).

Last year Sainz crashed like a complete clown in Brazil.

My favourite one is still SPA 2021:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... ormat=webp

Latifi ahead of Sainz and almost faster than both Ferraris. Leclerc 1.7s off Norris

Leclerc has been weaker against his teammates in wet conditions compared to the dry. Same car. This didn't happen with guys like Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Alonso, and Verstappen. I have tabulated the wet qualifying sessions here since 2019. If I'm bored enough I'll go through the wet races but you already know how bad it can get...Somethings always happening. You can't just handwave it away and say it's all Ferrari's fault. When you compare the wet and dry h2h, then you see he becomes very beatable in wet conditions. Hamilton is a ghost now. Leclerc wouldn't see which way he went in these conditions 10 years ago.


*recalled to the best of my ability, feel free to point out mistakes.