2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Slahinki
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Well that was a roller coaster and a half.

Badger
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:27
Except car number 1.
The plank and skid wear was checked on car numbers 81, 04, 16, 44, 01, 63, 12, 06, 55 and and 27.
Tell the truth. I thought you said you were going to have choice words for the team after the decision came out? What is all this conspiracy nonsense?

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chrisc90
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:27
Except car number 1.
Oh come on.

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30seconds looking on the FIA documents site at the race scrutineering document would stop the spread of false information
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Farnborough
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:22
CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:18
Not all teams have their skid blocks checked after the races.

McLaren have clearly been targeted here.

Potentially Verstappens could be worn by the same amount but might not get checked.
Are you surprised?
I understand it to be routine for top three or four finishers, plus random pick of two other from the rest.

It was discussed at length after the Cota disqualifications last season.

No conspiracy I can see. All competitors need to comply though, regardless. It really can't be used in team sentiment analysis.

Drastic result, yes. The only way out is not to be in contravention and there's no point dressing it up as anything else.

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Darth-Piekus
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Off to Qatar. Let's win both Sprint and Race and end this

Emag
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Why does it matter if they got picked at random or on purpose. It's a breach lmao. Stay within the legal limits next time and you avoid this shi*housery. It was embarrassing when it happened with Ferrari in China and it's even more embarrassing for McLaren to be so careless at the end of the season.
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CjC
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Badger wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:21
CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:18
Not all teams have their skid blocks checked after the races.

McLaren have clearly been targeted here.

Potentially Verstappens could be worn by the same amount but might not get checked.
Oh stop it. They always check the other top cars before they DSQ someone, precisely because they don't want to hear nonsense like this.

From the FIA post-race scrutineering document that was just released.
The plank and skid wear was checked on car numbers 81, 04, 16, 44, 01, 63, 12, 06, 55 and 27
McLaren have targeted themselves, through sheer incompetence.
My only crime was commenting before this document was released.

However, what if they checked verstappens and Leclerc’s car randomly and saw no excessive plank wear- then the FIA potentially don’t check McLaren skid blocks so the result stands
Just a fan's point of view

Ben1980
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This is no conspiracy, they messed up. Not by much, but by enough. Literally a hairstyle width. I doubt it impacts in Qatar. But, it really has made it a little more twitchy.

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mwillems
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venkyhere wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:09
mwillems wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:59
I'm keeping a distance from social media for the run in. But wanted to briefly return to just say, what the actual f*ck have they done.
I kept saying that while the design engg team is a masterclass, the drivers and race-operations are faltering from time to time. And many of you guys jumped on me. While Norris upped his game and drove like a champion over the past month or so, this is a clear race-operations flop-show. Without long-run data, they went overtly pessimistic and chose higher ride height in AustinGP, and in Vegas, they went the other way - decided to slam it really low. The WCC is won, so as far as the company is concerned, they have no more skin in the game for 2025 season. But try explaining this to the drivers, both of them. They must be pulling their hair out.
All have mishaps. Max has had several this year and could have been much closer. We have been less optimal than Max, but he's one of the best ever, and we've been spoilt with Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton and Verstappen in recent history. Its ok to win and not be at that level, so I ignore those comparisons.

This is a very silly mess up caused by the engineers signing off the mechanics setup changes after running the numbers.

.12mm is tiny but the ride height change to stop that is much larger, the numbers aren't parallel. Its a bigger mistake than it sounds.
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Emag wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:32
Why does it matter if they got picked at random or on purpose. It's a breach lmao. Stay within the legal limits next time and you avoid this shi*housery. It was embarrassing when it happened with Ferrari in China and it's even more embarrassing for McLaren to be so careless at the end of the season.
So true.
I’m not defending McLaren at all like the the clowns from the other teams think I am.

The shithousery is Red Bull chucking in PUs in left, right and centre now (another one this weekend- is that 3 extra for the season?)
‘Randomly’ checking the Mclarens skid blocks.
Maximum stint lengths for Qatar.

I knew the target on Mclarens back would be big one but I didn’t expect the carpet to be pull at from under their feet as well
Just a fan's point of view

Badger
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CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:36
Badger wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:21
CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:18
Not all teams have their skid blocks checked after the races.

McLaren have clearly been targeted here.

Potentially Verstappens could be worn by the same amount but might not get checked.
Oh stop it. They always check the other top cars before they DSQ someone, precisely because they don't want to hear nonsense like this.

From the FIA post-race scrutineering document that was just released.
The plank and skid wear was checked on car numbers 81, 04, 16, 44, 01, 63, 12, 06, 55 and 27
McLaren have targeted themselves, through sheer incompetence.
My only crime was commenting before this document was released.

However, what if they checked verstappens and Leclerc’s car randomly and saw no excessive plank wear- then the FIA potentially don’t check McLaren skid blocks so the result stands
"McLaren have clearly been targeted here". How would you know before seeing the document? You didn't know which cars had been checked. Your "crime" is stoking silly conspiracy theories instead of waiting for the facts to come out. Don't pretend.

Slahinki
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It's not the most clever gamble to make at this stage of the season, but here we are. The amount of points Norris has lost due to no fault of his own this year is getting ridiculous.

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chrisc90 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:29
Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:27
Except car number 1.
Oh come on.

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30seconds looking on the FIA documents site at the race scrutineering document would stop the spread of false information
Look longer than 30 seconds at all the race scrutineering this season and you will see that skid wear isn’t mentioned every race
Just a fan's point of view

CjC
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Badger wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:42
CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:36
Badger wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:21

Oh stop it. They always check the other top cars before they DSQ someone, precisely because they don't want to hear nonsense like this.

From the FIA post-race scrutineering document that was just released.

McLaren have targeted themselves, through sheer incompetence.
My only crime was commenting before this document was released.

However, what if they checked verstappens and Leclerc’s car randomly and saw no excessive plank wear- then the FIA potentially don’t check McLaren skid blocks so the result stands
"McLaren have clearly been targeted here". How would you know before seeing the document? You didn't know which cars had been checked. Your "crime" is stoking silly conspiracy theories instead of waiting for the facts to come out. Don't pretend.
I did read other race scrutineering reports from this season before I posted and as I’ve just previously said they don’t always mention checking the skid wear.

The top 10 were only checked this race because Mclaren was randomly checked and were found to have massively f*cked up.
Just a fan's point of view

DDopey
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It is just a bit too much of a coincidence after the FIA demanded removal of the skid block heating that this now happens. This can have a bit of an impact on the performance of McLaren in next races, it is not just a one off.