2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Darth-Piekus
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CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:04
Ok. I’m not as knowledgeable about it as I thought.
I have nothing left to say in now what is a pro-Verstappen forum. I hope he wins the title for you, I feel you guys will take it harder than me and I’ll be fairly disappointed if a McLaren driver doesn’t win it but you aren’t used to not winning.
I wonder if these people would support the same decision and dismiss the rest as tinfoil hat with the same energy and passion if Red Bull was the one disqualified by plank wear.
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Szabi1112
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Team should support Lando.

ScottR267
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Christ the state of the usual suspects here.

MCLAREN themselves made the mistake here…..not the FIA, not Red Bull and not Max Veratappen.

As a McLaren fan I can see why other members then dislike McLaren given some other members in this forum.

Either way time to regroup for next weekend

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:14
CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:04
Ok. I’m not as knowledgeable about it as I thought.
I have nothing left to say in now what is a pro-Verstappen forum. I hope he wins the title for you, I feel you guys will take it harder than me and I’ll be fairly disappointed if a McLaren driver doesn’t win it but you aren’t used to not winning.
I wonder if these people would support the same decision and dismiss the rest as tinfoil hat with the same energy and passion if Red Bull was the one disqualified by plank wear.
I don't feel there's much room for conspiracies, in either direction, for whichever team is measured and found to be out of range.

It's a very, very specific rule and measurement. There's no room for anyone, whomsoever they are, to explain their way out of it.
This ultimately rests solely with whichever team gets found in breach, its very clear.

They'll have to now come to these next races with this in mind, also a strategy to protect the margin that Lando still has. This is still in McL control.

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Seerix wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:10
What even is this discussion? They didn’t comply with the rules and were disqualified. It’s completely normal - no "targeting", no "but others". The mistake/misjudgement is solely on McLaren’s side.
It's obvious top cars will be checked more often.

"How long has this been going on for." :D sure, tin foil hats are striking immediately. That's to be expected.
The state of this forum is honestly silly at times, with comments that would fit better in the F1 twitter-sphere.

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sorry... they should check all the cars not just few random cars... It seems repeating of 2021 Abu Dhabi in 2025. They are trying to make sport interesting with some manipulation. something will happen in next race to make more interesting artificially..... I don't even surprise by end of next race Max = Noris in Point..... We will see..... in 7 days...

FittingMechanics
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They didn't have a good long run in FP1 and it cost them. --- happens.

The end result is that Norris needs to beat Verstappen over one of the remaining two weekends and he is the champion. It's not the end of the world.

Let's get him in Qatar.
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It’s clear that this was a McLaren mistake, especially considering the mitigating factors they identified and presented in the FIA document (weather, lack of practice time, unexpected porpoising, etc.). It just feels childish. All teams had the same conditions.

It’s hard to accept that, at this level, such errors still happen.

The good part is that Lando is still in the lead, but why should things be easy when they can be hard? And unfortunately, McLaren made it harder.

I wouldn’t want to be in Zak’s or Stella’s shoes when they have to talk to Lando or Oscar after the decision or in the debrief.

Now the damage is done, and the only thing McLaren can do is focus on Qatar and Abu Dhabi and avoid any further operational mistakes.
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SilviuAgo wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:39
Is clear that is a McLaren mistake also considering the mitigation they found and was presented in the FIA document (wather, lack of practice time, unexpected porpoising etc). Childish. All teams had same conditions.
Is hard to accept that at this level to have this kind of errors.
The good part is that Lando is still in the lead but why to be easy when it can be hard. And unfortunately McLaren made it harder.
I don't want to be in Zak or Stella's shoes when talking to Lando or Oscar after the decision or at the debrief.
Now the fact is done and only thing McLaren can do is to focus on Qatar and Abu Dhabi and to avoid any operational mistakes.
yes. but if FIA Make mistake then will it be revoked? not possible... example 2021 Abu Dhabi... I don't trust FIA in next two races... Anything can happen to make interesting....

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:35
sorry... they should check all the cars not just few random cars... It seems repeating of 2021 Abu Dhabi in 2025. They are trying to make sport interesting with some manipulation. something will happen in next race to make more interesting artificially..... I don't even surprise by end of next race Max = Noris in Point..... We will see..... in 7 days...
To check every car for every single compliance would take far too long especially back to back races go through al the things that can be and are checked. Max's car was checked for the plank ware and it seems the top 10 all where only the 2 McLarens failed the test.


Yeah 2020 AD was dodgy but this is a clear breach and solely on McLaren

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:42
SilviuAgo wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:39
Is clear that is a McLaren mistake also considering the mitigation they found and was presented in the FIA document (wather, lack of practice time, unexpected porpoising etc). Childish. All teams had same conditions.
Is hard to accept that at this level to have this kind of errors.
The good part is that Lando is still in the lead but why to be easy when it can be hard. And unfortunately McLaren made it harder.
I don't want to be in Zak or Stella's shoes when talking to Lando or Oscar after the decision or at the debrief.
Now the fact is done and only thing McLaren can do is to focus on Qatar and Abu Dhabi and to avoid any operational mistakes.
yes. but if FIA Make mistake then will it be revoked? not possible... example 2021 Abu Dhabi... I don't trust FIA in next two races... Anything can happen to make interesting....
The FIA re tested in front of McLaren engineers and confirmed the result this is a pretty black and white decisions where there is no room to move.

I think the FIA are dodgy in the name of a sppectical when and if they chose to clamp down on rules being dodged just don't think this is one of them.

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This is a team mistake, we don't need mad conspiracy theories. For some reason they messed up. Need to move on and majestic good in Qatar

Watto
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FittingMechanics wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:39
They didn't have a good long run in FP1 and it cost them. --- happens.

The end result is that Norris needs to beat Verstappen over one of the remaining two weekends and he is the champion. It's not the end of the world.

Let's get him in Qatar.
Lando only needs to finish 3rd in the 2 races and sprint with Max winning them all and he is the WDC. Hes in too good a form to muck that up IMO the only question I would have would be if there was something about the skid block heating stuff and McLaren are forced to raise the cars and lose performance..

Lando has been super solid the last month or two

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Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:57
FittingMechanics wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:39
They didn't have a good long run in FP1 and it cost them. --- happens.

The end result is that Norris needs to beat Verstappen over one of the remaining two weekends and he is the champion. It's not the end of the world.

Let's get him in Qatar.
Lando only needs to finish 3rd in the 2 races and sprint with Max winning them all and he is the WDC. Hes in too good a form to muck that up IMO the only question I would have would be if there was something about the skid block heating stuff and McLaren are forced to raise the cars and lose performance..

Lando has been super solid the last month or two
That change was in Brazil. They had good pace there and good pace here. With better data they would have avoided the penalty.

I know about finishing 3rd but it's a dangerous thing. Let's hope he has pace to beat Max in one weekend to seal a McLaren title and then let's see who wins it within the team.

Norris could now also entertain the idea of being super aggressive against VER. Piastri may close the gap but if I was NOR I'd be fine taking it to Abu Dhabi close to level on points with Piastri.

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Only problem may be that in Qatar they will need good data from long runs to nail the ride height.