2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Xyz22]

Charles was 0.190 s away from the podium. what a shame.
put that boy in that Mclaren and he'd be WDC in Monza already.

Did they not tell Leclerc he needed to speed up in order to overtake Antonelli's 5 second penalty? :/ Or was Leclerc literally going as fast as he could, and just unfortunately got held back by Piastri?

Leclerc was pushing to the max. Tyres didn't hold up.
And no he couldn't manage them better because he needed the DRS as his was running a subpar setup.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Leclerc said maybe they could've tried something with the engine possible but they need to look closer, from the car he thought he did everything

[Dr. Acula]

Charles was 0.190 s away from the podium. what a shame.
put that boy in that Mclaren and he'd be WDC in Monza already.

Did they not tell Leclerc he needed to speed up in order to overtake Antonelli's 5 second penalty? :/ Or was Leclerc literally going as fast as he could, and just unfortunately got held back by Piastri?

Piastri actually pulled away from Leclerc in the last few laps of the race. Looks like Charles simply drove as fast as he could and it simply wasn't quite enough.

[PlatinumZealot]

The car is not easy to drive. That's for sure. Hamilton reminding me of michael at mercedes. Fast at times but aloof and error prone. I think he's checked out.

Alonso is still hungry to get a win but is not in top form either. Stroll is too close to an Alonso I don't know.

[deadhead]

The car is not easy to drive. That's for sure. Hamilton reminding me of michael at mercedes. Fast at times but aloof and error prone. I think he's checked out.

Alonso is still hungry to get a win but is not in top form either. Stroll is too close to an Alonso I don't know.

Alonso in the MCL would’ve wrapped the WDC by now

[ScuderiaLeo]

From Autoracer https://autoracer.it/aston-martin-newey ... bio-stroll

Ferrari: any potential interest in Andy Cowell would be more driven by the need to replace Cardile in managing technical resources with someone who has in-depth knowledge of the entire design process.

Vasseur is currently following the evolution of the situation very closely. This could depend on two non-negligible factors: the first is that Vasseur is considering appointing a Chief Technical Officer, the second concerns the engineer's willingness to settle into a completely different environment.

On paper, Andy Cowell is a big name who, given the situation, could be available with a relatively short gardening leave period. In Maranello, he would reconnect with two people who knew him well during his time at Mercedes, namely Loïc Serra and Lewis Hamilton.

[Jdn1327]

From Autoracer https://autoracer.it/aston-martin-newey ... bio-stroll

Ferrari: any potential interest in Andy Cowell would be more driven by the need to replace Cardile in managing technical resources with someone who has in-depth knowledge of the entire design process.

Vasseur is currently following the evolution of the situation very closely. This could depend on two non-negligible factors: the first is that Vasseur is considering appointing a Chief Technical Officer, the second concerns the engineer's willingness to settle into a completely different environment.

On paper, Andy Cowell is a big name who, given the situation, could be available with a relatively short gardening leave period. In Maranello, he would reconnect with two people who knew him well during his time at Mercedes, namely Loïc Serra and Lewis Hamilton.

IMHO, and it is solely my opinion. They should be focused on making the car as quick as possible. Not on bringing in people who can connect with Hamilton, I know its probably not their intention but you already have a damn quick driver in Charles. They should just build the team around him. Hamilton would be a great number 2 no doubt.

[ScuderiaLeo]

IMHO, and it is solely my opinion. They should be focused on making the car as quick as possible. Not on bringing in people who can connect with Hamilton, I know its probably not their intention but you already have a damn quick driver in Charles. They should just build the team around him. Hamilton would be a great number 2 no doubt.

I don't think the driver is influential in these staff decisions at all. Vasseur's philosophy has always been to bring in new people from other teams, Cowell is just one of many, it has nothing to do with Hamilton nor Leclerc.

[sucof]

IMHO, and it is solely my opinion. They should be focused on making the car as quick as possible. Not on bringing in people who can connect with Hamilton, I know its probably not their intention but you already have a damn quick driver in Charles. They should just build the team around him. Hamilton would be a great number 2 no doubt.

I don't think the driver is influential in these staff decisions at all. Vasseur's philosophy has always been to bring in new people from other teams, Cowell is just one of many, it has nothing to do with Hamilton nor Leclerc.

I agree. Hamiltons presence has 0.1% weight in such decisions.
But he could bring many up to date data from other teams, even about Newey and their philosophy. My first thought was seeing the news was that he would be a great catch for Ferrari.

[PlatinumZealot]

Let's face it Leclerc needs the help. Even if the new people are connecting with Hamilton, as long as the car gets faster that's all that matters. HAM has a strong track record in improving car performance. Leclerc and Ferrari will only benefit.

[Seanspeed]

HAM has a strong track record in improving car performance.

His record is wildly mixed, as it would be, since drivers aren't responsible for the important parts of car development.

The guy jumped into a top car as a rookie.

The 2009 car sucked until Mclaren discovered one seemingly obvious fundamental aero error.

And in 2014 he had jumped into a team that had already done tons of development on their top flight engine beforehand, and a great chassis/aero.

In 2017, they already had a top car from Day 1. And in 2022, well, that's not a flattering example of Lewis somehow turning the team around.

Drivers dont develop cars.

Of all our problems, listening to Lewis isn't remotely one of them.

[Andi76]

Let's face it Leclerc needs the help. Even if the new people are connecting with Hamilton, as long as the car gets faster that's all that matters. HAM has a strong track record in improving car performance. Leclerc and Ferrari will only benefit.

Sorry, but that's not the case. On the contrary. He came into F1 and got into the best car, which was still the best the following year. And then things went downhill... and Hamilton was unable to improve either the car or the team over several years. Then he went to Mercedes, where they had spent several years developing the team, procedures, and technology with a view to 2014, and where many developments were tested in 2013. I think the "Mercedes advantage" is well known, so in terms of development, it won't really be relevant again until 2022 – and here we didn't see any real leaps in development. Just as they are lacking at Ferrari. And it is precisely in times like these that good "development drivers" show their quality. Not when the team puts out a car that is already good, but when it is not so good. And in these times, the teams Hamilton was in, whether McLaren, Mercedes, or Ferrari, have not made any leaps in development.

To say that drivers do not develop a car, as one response to your post says, is wrong. Of course, it is increasingly the engineers and the simulations and data, but even today, a driver still contributes a lot. The importance of the driver in this regard lies in identifying the areas that need improvement and that have the most potential for improvement. Here, the driver is still of immense importance today, and having a driver who is good at this determines whether you are competing for victories and titles or, at best, only for podiums or even less.

Unfortunately, Hamilton is not good in this regard, as history has sadly proven. Whenever the team he was in did not build a good car from the outset, it did not improve significantly. His behavior, characterized by constant complaints, whining, and criticism, is also the exact opposite of what you would call motivating a team, and in fact, it does not promote team spirit. It destroys it.

But anyway - sorry, Hamilton definitely does not have a strong track record in improving car performance. In fact, he has the opposite. Whenever it was necessary for the car to significantly improve its performance, nothing moved forward. Whether at McLaren from 2009 to 2012, at Mercedes from 2022 to 2024, or at Ferrari in 2025.

The car is not easy to drive. That's for sure. Hamilton reminding me of michael at mercedes. Fast at times but aloof and error prone. I think he's checked out.

I couldn't agree with you more on that point. Unfortunately, EVERYONE declines with age. And that's especially true in F1. It's a biological and physiological fact that around the age of 40, everyone's ability to judge distances at high speeds declines. For an F1 driver, this obviously has a big impact. Coulthard put it very aptly in an interview when he talked about his final years: "Corners that used to be no problem were gone before I got there" or something similar. You can no longer place the car with centimeter precision in every corner, you miss braking points, you misjudge the distance to your opponent. And then you quickly lose three or four tenths per lap. This happens to EVERY driver and EVERY person over 40. It is physiologically inevitable and the reason why fighter pilots in most air forces around the world "retire" at the age of 45 and are no longer allowed to fly fighter jets in combat. And why F1 drivers slow down with age.

However, what Hamilton does have going against him is that, unlike Schumacher, he is completely unable to motivate the team and tends to have a negative effect on them in this regard. For him, it's all about himself and his own present, not the team and its future. For Michael, the team, its progress, and its development were always the priority, which was certainly one of the reasons why both Ferrari and Mercedes later became arguably the most dominant teams of all time. Because they were teams. And only in real teams is it possible for everyone to actually participate in the creative process and contribute their best. This is one of the important building blocks of success in F1 today, just as it was back then.

[yooogurt]

Sebastian Vettel reveals the only advice he gave Sir Lewis Hamilton for Ferrari. He also shares that, even though officially the language is English, Italian is crucial as some team memeber 'don't speak English or they don't speak English very well':

"He's been with Mercedes for a long, long time. And then the move to Ferrari, for sure, it's going to be a huge difference because the heart and the culture of the team is Italian. The language is English. I mean, he understands everybody in the team, but there (are) also employees that he doesn't understand because they don't speak English or they don't speak English very well. And if you don't speak a language very well, you know yourself, you get along. But do you really get the people and do you get the culture? And I think that's a crucial, yeah, mistake that I've done."

"Looking back... I learned Italian, I took classes and I sort of got along and I understood, but I wasn't perfect. I should have really studied Italian more, maybe also spend more time in Italy to really understand the culture more because culture is also the people."

"And I told Lewis before, when he made the move, I said, the only advice I can give you, the best advice I can give you is learn the language, learn it really, really well."

[via F1's Beyond The Grid Podcast]
https://x.com/simsgazette/status/1993628091458167023

[Mosin123]

Let's face it Leclerc needs the help. Even if the new people are connecting with Hamilton, as long as the car gets faster that's all that matters. HAM has a strong track record in improving car performance. Leclerc and Ferrari will only benefit.

Sorry, but that's not the case. On the contrary. He came into F1 and got into the best car, which was still the best the following year. And then things went downhill... and Hamilton was unable to improve either the car or the team over several years. Then he went to Mercedes, where they had spent several years developing the team, procedures, and technology with a view to 2014, and where many developments were tested in 2013. I think the "Mercedes advantage" is well known, so in terms of development, it won't really be relevant again until 2022 – and here we didn't see any real leaps in development. Just as they are lacking at Ferrari. And it is precisely in times like these that good "development drivers" show their quality. Not when the team puts out a car that is already good, but when it is not so good. And in these times, the teams Hamilton was in, whether McLaren, Mercedes, or Ferrari, have not made any leaps in development.

To say that drivers do not develop a car, as one response to your post says, is wrong. Of course, it is increasingly the engineers and the simulations and data, but even today, a driver still contributes a lot. The importance of the driver in this regard lies in identifying the areas that need improvement and that have the most potential for improvement. Here, the driver is still of immense importance today, and having a driver who is good at this determines whether you are competing for victories and titles or, at best, only for podiums or even less.

Unfortunately, Hamilton is not good in this regard, as history has sadly proven. Whenever the team he was in did not build a good car from the outset, it did not improve significantly. His behavior, characterized by constant complaints, whining, and criticism, is also the exact opposite of what you would call motivating a team, and in fact, it does not promote team spirit. It destroys it.

But anyway - sorry, Hamilton definitely does not have a strong track record in improving car performance. In fact, he has the opposite. Whenever it was necessary for the car to significantly improve its performance, nothing moved forward. Whether at McLaren from 2009 to 2012, at Mercedes from 2022 to 2024, or at Ferrari in 2025.

The car is not easy to drive. That's for sure. Hamilton reminding me of michael at mercedes. Fast at times but aloof and error prone. I think he's checked out.

I couldn't agree with you more on that point. Unfortunately, EVERYONE declines with age. And that's especially true in F1. It's a biological and physiological fact that around the age of 40, everyone's ability to judge distances at high speeds declines. For an F1 driver, this obviously has a big impact. Coulthard put it very aptly in an interview when he talked about his final years: "Corners that used to be no problem were gone before I got there" or something similar. You can no longer place the car with centimeter precision in every corner, you miss braking points, you misjudge the distance to your opponent. And then you quickly lose three or four tenths per lap. This happens to EVERY driver and EVERY person over 40. It is physiologically inevitable and the reason why fighter pilots in most air forces around the world "retire" at the age of 45 and are no longer allowed to fly fighter jets in combat. And why F1 drivers slow down with age.

However, what Hamilton does have going against him is that, unlike Schumacher, he is completely unable to motivate the team and tends to have a negative effect on them in this regard. For him, it's all about himself and his own present, not the team and its future. For Michael, the team, its progress, and its development were always the priority, which was certainly one of the reasons why both Ferrari and Mercedes later became arguably the most dominant teams of all time. Because they were teams. And only in real teams is it possible for everyone to actually participate in the creative process and contribute their best. This is one of the important building blocks of success in F1 today, just as it was back then.

That is a bit of a fried take on things, He did start in a good car, he also had to go against a 2 time world champion, and was a match for the champion. Then you forget about the fall out from spygate, which seriously damaged Mclaren, it caused the split with the Mercedes engine partnership and was the main driver in Mercedes buying Brawn to begin with.

Also dont remember Mercedes being a title challenger in LH first season either, They became champions after LH joined the team. Infact, Every body in the world was saying he had made a mistake signing for Mercedes, blah blah blah..... The W11 was also the best f1 car Mercedes ever made, Some say it is the best F1 car ever made, 6 years after LH joined, But lets just pretend it didnt happen yes?.

Michael Schumacher did the work in his bed while in a coma apparently..

[Badger]

Sebastian Vettel reveals the only advice he gave Sir Lewis Hamilton for Ferrari. He also shares that, even though officially the language is English, Italian is crucial as some team memeber 'don't speak English or they don't speak English very well':

"He's been with Mercedes for a long, long time. And then the move to Ferrari, for sure, it's going to be a huge difference because the heart and the culture of the team is Italian. The language is English. I mean, he understands everybody in the team, but there (are) also employees that he doesn't understand because they don't speak English or they don't speak English very well. And if you don't speak a language very well, you know yourself, you get along. But do you really get the people and do you get the culture? And I think that's a crucial, yeah, mistake that I've done."

"Looking back... I learned Italian, I took classes and I sort of got along and I understood, but I wasn't perfect. I should have really studied Italian more, maybe also spend more time in Italy to really understand the culture more because culture is also the people."

"And I told Lewis before, when he made the move, I said, the only advice I can give you, the best advice I can give you is learn the language, learn it really, really well."

[via F1's Beyond The Grid Podcast]
https://x.com/simsgazette/status/1993628091458167023

Seb is a poor judge of character if he seriously thought that Hamilton was going to learn Italian.