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This TP decision makes no sense, I can't see why Newey would want this role when even Horner who is a TP doesn't want his next role in F1 to be a TP role. Newey is the greatest technical mind of all time and being wasted in a TP role, I don't understand it. And his personality isn't like Ross Brawn either, so I truly don't get this decision.

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So the CEO role is gone, and Mike Krack remains as Chief Trackside Officer?

If Newey wants full control then the Team Principal title makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is if he starts wasting too much time being trackside, doing interviews, doing political battles and thus lose focus on the engineering of the actual car.

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diffuser wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 02:53


I would interpret Cowell being sent to PU integration as Newey saying to Cowell, " You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to anything chassis. Go play with what you know."
I am yet to be convinced Newey and Cowell actually have any beef or that Cowell was trying to tell Newey anything about car design. It could be completely made up rumors. If they hire Horner, everything would make sense.

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ME4ME wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 20:03
So the CEO role is gone, and Mike Krack remains as Chief Trackside Officer?

If Newey wants full control then the Team Principal title makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is if he starts wasting too much time being trackside, doing interviews, doing political battles and thus lose focus on the engineering of the actual car.
Andrea Stella is the TP of Mclaren but Zak Brown does most of the superfluous things that you mentioned. It could be a similar situation if they hire someone as a CEO.

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I'm also a bit perplexed by this. I would have thought that having Adrian Newey focusing most of his time on designing and upgrading the cars would be a better use of his time, not doing all the TV interviews etc that the TP role entails. Unless its some temporary thing until they get another TP, or maybe Horner or someone else as CEO in the Zac Brown equivalent role.

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"Former Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has also been pushing for a role at Aston Martin, and wants a shareholding.

Sources at the team say Horner, who is free to work for another team from next summer after being sacked by Red Bull in July, will not be given a role at Aston Martin."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/ar ... 28vyzeg4po

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Alo_Fan wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 20:38
"Former Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has also been pushing for a role at Aston Martin, and wants a shareholding.

Sources at the team say Horner, who is free to work for another team from next summer after being sacked by Red Bull in July, will not be given a role at Aston Martin."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/ar ... 28vyzeg4po
I'm pretty sure he negotiated to get the gardening leave to end in the beginning of 2026, so could still be a candidate for Aston CEO or something if Newey and Lawrence want him here.

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If we look at this realistically, Newey spending more time on the managerial side of getting things the way he wants means there is less time for him to be working creatively on the design board. I feel Newey is wasting his valuable time by being at the track for 24 weekends of the year.

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Alo_Fan wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 19:59
This TP decision makes no sense, I can't see why Newey would want this role when even Horner who is a TP doesn't want his next role in F1 to be a TP role. Newey is the greatest technical mind of all time and being wasted in a TP role, I don't understand it. And his personality isn't like Ross Brawn either, so I truly don't get this decision.
Just listen to Lawrence Stroll: "Adrian's team principal responsibilities will make full use of his creative and technical expertise."
This makes it clear that Newey will not actually be a team principal. He will not be a Todt, Dennis, Williams, Briatore, or Horner. It's purely about Newey pulling all the strings when it comes to the racing team, factory, and car, and having absolute control over everything technical. Without anyone (except Stroll) above him. Or Cowell. That's what Newey wanted from the start. Basically, Newey is now what Ross Brawn was at Ferrari, who had sole decision-making power over all technical matters. At Aston Martin, they had to make him team principal, whereas at Ferrari and Brawn, the technical director and a corresponding contract were sufficient at the time. Perhaps with the added advantage that Newey no longer has to convince anyone to spend money on a new simulator in order to get the expenditure approved, because he can do that himself. That's how it all looks. They wanted/had to make Newey team principal so that he would have the required full and sole technical control. And so that he wouldn't have to come to terms with anyone else or even ask anyone else. As I said, Stroll's comment makes that clear. Because a team principal has very little to do with creative expertise, or technical expertise for that matter. A team principal actually has completely different tasks and is actually concerned with things other than the creative process and technical details.

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Interesting appointment.

Will be impressed if this works out.
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TyreSlip wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 20:49
If we look at this realistically, Newey spending more time on the managerial side of getting things the way he wants means there is less time for him to be working creatively on the design board. I feel Newey is wasting his valuable time by being at the track for 24 weekends of the year.
This is more or less the same role he had at Red Bull. He was the de facto TP of the Technical side of the company.

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If Newey is team principal how would he has time for design cars? will he must do all these interviews post/after races, like Wolf/Horner ?

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tobi gruener from amus saying theres rumours about honda engine being overweight

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hsg wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 22:00
If Newey is team principal how would he has time for design cars? will he must do all these interviews post/after races, like Wolf/Horner ?
Newey (when in good health) missed only a very small amount of races while at RB/McL and Williams.

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Xyz22 wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 21:13
TyreSlip wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 20:49
If we look at this realistically, Newey spending more time on the managerial side of getting things the way he wants means there is less time for him to be working creatively on the design board. I feel Newey is wasting his valuable time by being at the track for 24 weekends of the year.
This is more or less the same role he had at Red Bull. He was the de facto TP of the Technical side of the company.
But he is in essence taking on a role that Horner would be responsible for too.