2026 pecking order speculation

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Who comes out on top in the new regs?

Mclaren
42
20%
Mercedes
68
32%
Ferrari
27
13%
Red Bull
28
13%
Aston Martin
37
17%
Audi
2
1%
Alpine
4
2%
Williams
3
1%
Haas/Racing Bulls
0
No votes
Cadillac
2
1%
 
Total votes: 213

stan_french
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This Forum has a history of having interesting takes on the peckign order, and im curious to hear it again!

Let's enjoy this dubious speculation.

EDIT: just to note I put haas and racing bulls together because of 10 choice limit for the poll. :(( Sorry to those who wanted to distinguish between those 2. <3
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The funny thing is, ony alpine and cadillac are regarded as out-of-contention for a top performance. Maybe not all of the rest may be in contention for 1st, but most midfield teams are fully capable of a surprise top 3. The cost cap did do its magic

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Henk_v wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 22:42
The funny thing is, ony alpine and cadillac are regarded as out-of-contention for a top performance. Maybe not all of the rest may be in contention for 1st, but most midfield teams are fully capable of a surprise top 3. The cost cap did do its magic
Unsure, or at least this will be the ultimate test. Fundamentally our top 3-4 are still the usual contenders, and there's been no major upset yet. One thing we shouldnt forget is the unforgiving cycle of success, means more talented individuals are attracted which furthers the cycle, and so on so forth.

I will aknowledge there has never been a better time for a surprise contention (as an alpine fan I would be very happy, my tin foil hat is very much on) but regardless i do think the usual suspects will be at the top personally.

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My votes for the team with the genius

Honda, Alonso, and a man who will be able to figure out how to get the best out of the regulations, quicker than the other team

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Henk_v wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 22:42
The funny thing is, ony alpine and cadillac are regarded as out-of-contention for a top performance. Maybe not all of the rest may be in contention for 1st, but most midfield teams are fully capable of a surprise top 3. The cost cap did do its magic
In my opinion the cost cap helped to make the gaps smaller, but the top teams haven't really been trumped (and I dont think they ever will). They cannot throw the same amount of money they were throwing before, but the best people still go to the best teams. They have the best infrastructure and they also have the experience of being at the top.

I don't really expect any "shock" top 3 enters next year, but that depends on what the definition of shock would be for you. I personally wouldn't consider it a shock if Aston Martin for example are competitive next year. They have had a lot of investments since 2021.

As for potential "strugglers", I could see McLaren suffering to be honest. At least initially. Going into a relatively complicated new regulation with the least amount of wind tunnel hours seems challenging. RedBull did just fine in 2022 though, so who knows. But even if they start out rough, I would expect them to get better during the season because they have great people and probably the most up to date infrastructure of the top teams at the moment. Maybe a 2024-like season for them wouldn't be too farfetched (as in start a bit slow and at some point in the season come out strong with an upgrade package).

A dark horse, if you could even consider it that, for me it's RedBull. I don't know why so many people seem to have written them off. In the last 20 years, they're the most successful team in terms of WDC (I think). Maybe the engine could be an issue, but it's not like RBPT is developing the engine with sticks and stones. Ford is not exactly your neighborhood repair shop either.

On the chassis side, I believe they will deliver. They also have the best driver in the grid (let's say arguably, to not antagonize some people). They should be in contention.
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Emag wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 23:38
Henk_v wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 22:42
The funny thing is, ony alpine and cadillac are regarded as out-of-contention for a top performance. Maybe not all of the rest may be in contention for 1st, but most midfield teams are fully capable of a surprise top 3. The cost cap did do its magic
In my opinion the cost cap helped to make the gaps smaller, but the top teams haven't really been trumped (and I dont think they ever will). They cannot throw the same amount of money they were throwing before, but the best people still go to the best teams. They have the best infrastructure and they also have the experience of being at the top.

I don't really expect any "shock" top 3 enters next year, but that depends on what the definition of shock would be for you. I personally wouldn't consider it a shock if Aston Martin for example are competitive next year. They have had a lot of investments since 2021.

As for potential "strugglers", I could see McLaren suffering to be honest. At least initially. Going into a relatively complicated new regulation with the least amount of wind tunnel hours seems challenging. RedBull did just fine in 2022 though, so who knows. But even if they start out rough, I would expect them to get better during the season because they have great people and probably the most up to date infrastructure of the top teams at the moment. Maybe a 2024-like season for them wouldn't be too farfetched (as in start a bit slow and at some point in the season come out strong with an upgrade package).

A dark horse, if you could even consider it that, for me it's RedBull. I don't know why so many people seem to have written them off. In the last 20 years, they're the most successful team in terms of WDC (I think). Maybe the engine could be an issue, but it's not like RBPT is developing the engine with sticks and stones. Ford is not exactly your neighborhood repair shop either.

On the chassis side, I believe they will deliver. They also have the best driver in the grid (let's say arguably, to not antagonize some people). They should be in contention.
I think the better question we have not discussed actually, is, has the new regulations disproportionally affected one team over another. I distinctly remember this was the case in 2022, where a lot of regulation on the suspension for example was overhauled to remove any baked in advantage that mercedes had.

Any thoughts on that?

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2022 rule change is to favor RB and MAX

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He did fine in '21, needed no favour.

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stan_french wrote:
27 Nov 2025, 15:00
Emag wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 23:38
Henk_v wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 22:42
The funny thing is, ony alpine and cadillac are regarded as out-of-contention for a top performance. Maybe not all of the rest may be in contention for 1st, but most midfield teams are fully capable of a surprise top 3. The cost cap did do its magic
In my opinion the cost cap helped to make the gaps smaller, but the top teams haven't really been trumped (and I dont think they ever will). They cannot throw the same amount of money they were throwing before, but the best people still go to the best teams. They have the best infrastructure and they also have the experience of being at the top.

I don't really expect any "shock" top 3 enters next year, but that depends on what the definition of shock would be for you. I personally wouldn't consider it a shock if Aston Martin for example are competitive next year. They have had a lot of investments since 2021.

As for potential "strugglers", I could see McLaren suffering to be honest. At least initially. Going into a relatively complicated new regulation with the least amount of wind tunnel hours seems challenging. RedBull did just fine in 2022 though, so who knows. But even if they start out rough, I would expect them to get better during the season because they have great people and probably the most up to date infrastructure of the top teams at the moment. Maybe a 2024-like season for them wouldn't be too farfetched (as in start a bit slow and at some point in the season come out strong with an upgrade package).

A dark horse, if you could even consider it that, for me it's RedBull. I don't know why so many people seem to have written them off. In the last 20 years, they're the most successful team in terms of WDC (I think). Maybe the engine could be an issue, but it's not like RBPT is developing the engine with sticks and stones. Ford is not exactly your neighborhood repair shop either.

On the chassis side, I believe they will deliver. They also have the best driver in the grid (let's say arguably, to not antagonize some people). They should be in contention.
I think the better question we have not discussed actually, is, has the new regulations disproportionally affected one team over another. I distinctly remember this was the case in 2022, where a lot of regulation on the suspension for example was overhauled to remove any baked in advantage that mercedes had.

Any thoughts on that?
These rule have been specially disigned to favour some teams. It was the very reason to change the rules. It is the purpose. These rules favour the new works teams. Electric propulsion is much, much easier than combustion and they stripped away all the intersting tech the current works teams have been working at for 2 decades. They are forced to bin a lot of IP to get porsch...uh..audi in.

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Lots of optimism for Aston Martin, but when was the last time a team went from 7th on the grid to 1st? Even counting for Newey and boat loads of extra Wind tunnel and CFD runs, seems like huge gap to overcome. I think we needed to see more from 25.

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Saying Aston Martin for fun! I know their wind tunnel still needs dialing in, but with the genius of Newey you just never know!
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Mercedes will be the standout, people were saying "Mclaren" as their competitor but I always said it will be "Aston Martin" who's best of the rest.

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euv2 wrote:
03 Dec 2025, 13:13
Lots of optimism for Aston Martin, but when was the last time a team went from 7th on the grid to 1st? Even counting for Newey and boat loads of extra Wind tunnel and CFD runs, seems like huge gap to overcome. I think we needed to see more from 25.
If they have completely junked the 2025 car early and put all their resources to 2026, it should have accelerated the development. They didn't have anything to gain in 2025. So the lack of results this year isn't a surprise. Honda would surely do a great job. They aren't going to be in 2015 situation this time. So the combination of Honda and Newey is the key for the optimism for Aston Martin. Hope they do well.

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When do you guys think the first "valid" information about the 2026 cars will be leaked? Like do you think it will be just when private testing starts, or do you expect some information beforehand?

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I expect nothing to be leaked. Maybe we hear things about the Ferrari because the Italian media likes to hype things up, but I doubt it will be anything "useful". The first bit of relevant information should come after the private test in Barcelona on the end of January.
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